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So, you see the binding of the strong man as representing the restraining of the demon rather than completely incapacitating the demon, right? If so, why can't you see Satan's binding similarly? Also, if the binding of the strong man does not represent Jesus binding Satan to spoil his house and...

That's just a bad translation of John 6:39. Verses 39 and 40 are referring to the same people, not two different groups. Here it is from a few other translations: NIV: And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last...

Right. And that wrath Paul referred to in those verses you referenced is described here: 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as...

Just like he did in the original post. If someone has to resort to misrepresenting the opposing view, it says a lot about their lack of confidence in their own view.

You know that scripture talks about people being possessed by demons or evil spirits and such, right? Well, demons are fallen angels. I hope I don't have to convince you that they influence the people they possess. Paul talked about demons still being around in later times. 1 Timothy 4:1 The...

It was also your point that Amils use the allegorical method to distort scripture and that is false. I showed you how the foundation of Amil doctrine is one clear, straightforward scripture.

Post #147 in this thread is my response to what you said there. You responded to my post with a link to that thread and I responded here. So, you can respond to that. I'm not going to post on the other thread when we can just talk about it here instead. I'm already trying to keep track of too...

Get what idea? Do you not think that demons are fallen angels?

So, you do get it. The symbols don't have to resemble what they symbolize. And, yet, that's how you understand the dragon being chained up in the abyss/bottomless pit. You say Satan himself is literally locked up. No, his binding is symbolically represented that way. But, he's no more literally...

You are a robot. You think just saying this over and over again proves anything. You aren't proving who those "few men left" are. Meanwhile, us amils have shown who they are. You also haven't explained why some unbelievers would be allowed to survive with the rest being killed. Are you afraid to...

Yes, I know you believe that. But, you noticeably didn't respond directly to anything I said in my post. Tell me, do you believe that the bodily resurrection of the dead is what is required for the second death to not have power over someone? Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath...

No, my insults reveal that your arguments are so weak that they're barely worth even responding to. Yes, let's. New Testament scripture shows them having plenty of influence, so why don't you take that into account? Unless you think them possessing people and such is "no influence".

What are you talking about? If you think of Jesus casting out a demon as what it means for Him to bind the strong man, then how is He completely incapacitating that demon by doing so? He's not. He's removing the demon from within the person he was possessing, but he is still free to do other...

You indicated that you saw Satan himself as being literally imprisoned. You're acting as if the symbol has to resemble what it symbolizes. In another post you just said "Satan is literally locked up.". And you're asking me why I think you want it to be literal? You are taking the symbolism...

You have even less discernment than I thought. No, those fallen angels are not literally chained up. They are the demons who have been quite active ever since God reserved them for judgment.

LOL. You mean the weak reasons you gave that were as convincing at telling me that 1 + 1 = 3? Those reasons?

I completely disagree that Romans 9 and Romans 11 have different contexts. I believe Romans 9-11 is all one narrative. Throughout Romans 9-11 Paul is making the case that being saved and being a child of God has nothing to do with one's nationality, but rather has to do with whether or not...

Here's another way to look at this. We know that some of God's angels, including Satan, rebelled against Him long ago, right? Here's what scripture says God did to those fallen angels: 2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into...

Yet, you think some who are not watching will somehow survive. What is the difference between those who are not watching and supposedly survive and those who are not watching and are destroyed? Please answer this question. You can't be expected to be taken seriously that there will be mortal...

LOL. Hardly. You are quite delusional. Don't misrepresent my view. I say having part in the first resurrection occurs throughout the thousand years and that having part in the first resurrection occurs by way of spiritually having part in Christ's resurrection, which was the first resurrection...