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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    We all are doing that, including you. I think I will stop doing that at this point and not waste any more time on you. I could not care less how you interpret that. I have backed up my view with scripture many times extensively, so if you want to think I can't defend my position despite the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You say that the trib can be compared to what happened with the flood in Noah's day, right? Where in either Matthew 24, 2 Peter 3 or Luke 17, where the wrath that will occur at Christ's second coming is compared to the flood of Noah's day, does it indicate that anyone will get the opportunity to...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It tells me that you've been duped by the false teaching of full preterism. Nonsense! That happens all the time. You show your own ignorance by believing this nonsense. Is there no such thing as deception in your world where people are deceived into believing things that aren't true after...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Believers during a supposed time of tribulation after the rapture? Where do you get this nonsense from? Did you read my post? I went through Luke 17:26-37 where Jesus talked about how the scope of destruction at His coming when the rapture occurs (one taken, one left) can be compared to the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Are you even capable of saying anything that makes any sense? I can't recall you ever saying anything but complete nonsense. Jesus never needed redemption. Are you kidding? I would never say such a stupid thing as that. Where do you get the nonsense that runs rampant in your head from? I do...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It should be chilly for you. You foolishly deny that we are still looking forward to what Paul referenced in Titus 2:13: Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Well, yeah! No kidding. What I'm trying to get you to address is what does His wrath result in as it relates to unbelievers? According to Jesus in Matthew 24:35-39 and Luke 17:26-37, they will all be destroyed when He comes and the rapture occurs just as occurred with the flood in Noah's day and...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    He does no such thing! Just like Peter did in 2 Peter 3:6-7, Jesus compared the scope of destruction that happened with the flood in Noah's day to the scope of destruction that would occur when He comes. He pointed out that in Noah's day the flood came and destroyed all unbelievers and then He...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Jesus did not come in 70 AD. No one saw Him come with power and great glory back then and the elect were not gathered at that time. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on this nonsense.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You don't know? Really? He's clearly referring to those who believe in a pre-trib rapture and think that we are wimps who need to be removed from the earth to avoid tribulation despite the fact that millions of Christians have gone through tribulation for almost 2,000 years at this point. No...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    As usual, you just ignore everything I say and don't address it. Where does it say that a new vision is introduced in verse 11? It doesn't. Again, verse 11 refers to the little horn who started being described in verse 9, so you can't say that verse 11 starts a new vision. You try to say that...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Amen! The idea that Christians will be taken off of the earth to avoid tribulation for a period of 7 years or whatever is complete nonsense when you consider that Christians have been going through tribulation for almost 2,000 years now. Here is one more verse to add to the list: 2 Timothy...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I don't know what you're talking about. Speak clearly and get to the point.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Your understanding of the phrase "the time of the end" in Daniel 8:17 is flawed. Here is the beginning part of the explanation of the vision that went from verse 2 to verse 14. Daniel 8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    It would not let me edit my previous post for some reason. I deleted it and was going to repost. I won't bother and will just address this here. Verse 11 is referring back to the little horn described starting in verse 8, so there isn't an entirely new vision introduced in verse 11 as you were...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    Thanks for the explanation. I think Babylon encompasses more than just the RCC, as I have explained. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. As for your particular view, what about other protestant churches who apostasize in some other way besides returning to RCC teachings...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is a very ironic thing for you to say to others. The pretrib rapture theory absolutely does NOT come from spiritual discernment provided by the Holy Spirit, that is for certain. No one even believed that nonsense until the 1800s when someone conjured it up in his imagination. No post-trib...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It's truly all he has to offer. His arguments are very weak, so I can understand why he would try a different approach than presenting his weak arguments. But, his personal insults obviously aren't an improvement.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    All opinion and no scriptural evidence to back it up. As usual. This is a waste of time. The HEAVENLY Jerusalem is not on earth. Being redeemed FROM earth means you're not on earth. Your arguments are complete nonsense and are a clear case of you making scripture say what you want it to say and...