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  1. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Ordained. Appointed. Selected. These are synonyms. God ordained the man Jesus. KJV. Same difference. The meaning goes against trinity world.
  2. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Interesting exchange. In another thread, either an atheist or agnostic seemed to suppose that if a thing COULD BE disputed, that meant it was not true. Of course, anything can be unreasonably disputed. I've referenced the old nursery rhythm numerous times, Jack and Jill. Does anyone dispute...
  3. Wrangler

    Do you think Joe Biden is guilty of the allegations against him made by Tara Reade?

    Oy vey. Not quite. The race baiters and sex baiters have you twisted. There is not women's rights separate from other rights. The weight of the claim of equality has to be carried here. Want equal rights but special privileges? In our 2,000 year old system of jurisprudence, accusations are not...
  4. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    I imagine that’s what straight forward thinking - based on logic, definition & language usage - sounds like to trinitarians. The text reads ‘God selected the man Jesus.’ Simple but undermining doctrine not contained in Scripture. Therefore, it has to be codswallup, and gobbledegook. The verse...
  5. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    The idea that a man God selected is not perhaps but an explicit teaching in Scripture. That Jesus was the word from the beginning is not an explicit teaching in Scripture but a trinitarian imposition onto unitarian text. See Duet 18:15-18. God put his words into Jesus. Perhaps God planned to...
  6. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    I floored an 86-year old trinitarian over the weekend by asking him to read Rev 1:1. When he got to the word God I told him to stop. The resurrected Jesus in heaven was given a revelation by God. You have to be devoted to a doctrine antithetical to the word of God to still claim Jesus is God...
  7. Wrangler

    Explain Revelations So Even I Can Understand It

    Nothing specific. Just a thumbnail sketch. For instance, I could some up Original Sin very succinctly and even the whole book of Genesis. No need for me to do it in this thread. In fact, if put to the test, I am confident I could reasonably summarize every book of Bible - except Revelations.
  8. Wrangler

    False Prophets

    Agreed. ‘For us, there is one God, the Father.’ Hard to imagine a more explicit destruction of the false doctrine of the trinity.
  9. Wrangler

    Explain Revelations So Even I Can Understand It

    Read. Study might be too strong a word. I realize the imagery is connected.
  10. Wrangler

    False Prophets

    Not Jesus.
  11. Wrangler

    Explain Revelations So Even I Can Understand It

    Just read a thread about war in heaven via Rev 12:7. Though I read revelations 3x, I confess I cannot keep it in my head. I even read a book by a Rabbi who did an excellent analysis of connecting the many figurative passages. The 1st time I read Revelations, I thought John must have been...
  12. Wrangler

    False Prophets

    Only if you see things that aren't there. That is, the trinity is not in the Bible anywhere and neither is its doctrine. Sad to project trinitarian doctrine onto unitarian text. The Jews, who wrote Genesis, certainly do not see the trinity in the creation account. That tells you there is...
  13. Wrangler

    False Prophets

    Is 1 John 5:7 an added verse in the KJV Bible? - Quora
  14. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    I see. Even though the text says Jesus is a man that God selected, he is not. Funny thing, all begotten men can be chosen by their father for a purpose - or not. In other words, just because Jesus is God's begotten, does not change the Q&A at all. (No one is denying that Jesus is God's begotten...
  15. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Except the trinity.
  16. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Acts was written by Luke, not Paul.
  17. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    You most certainly have stretch the truth with your proclamation NOT found in the text in question. It’s fine to talk about OTHER attributes of Jesus in other threads. Whose son he is does not fall under the atttrubute under discussion. The singular question in this thread is, based on the...
  18. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Predictable. Hence, the OP scope of discussion.
  19. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Sure but my question was not WHEN but HOW such a conclusion reached in light of such verses as the OP?
  20. Wrangler

    False Prophets

    This does not contain the trinity nor the trinity doctrine. There simple is no verse in the Bible that reads The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the father son and holy spirit who are co-substantial, co-equal in co-eternal - and if you do not believe this you cannot go to heaven but...