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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You discernment level of what others say about what they believe matches your discernment level of scripture. If my eschatology is off then prove it. Put your money where your mouth is for once and do something to actually show what you believe. I have done that extensively and you have not. No...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Are you kidding me? When do you plan on ever actually debating? Debating involves exegeting scripture so that people can be clear about how and why you believe what you do. You NEVER do that. How about you start now? You are a complete hypocrite. All you do here is talk trash and you've never...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. This is rich coming from you. Who always starts making things personal? The pretribs. Every time. We try to get you to engage scripture and exegete it and you respond with insults. That's the never ending cycle we see on this forum. You are afraid to exegete scripture, so you resort to...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So, think about this. You tell us that our doctrine is wrong when you don't even know what we believe. Do you know how ridiculous that is? It's like you trying to correct an astronaut by telling him or her how to navigate a spaceship when you don't even know anything about it. Such nonsense. Why...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. I do far more often than you do and I actually exegete it to show exactly how I interpret it and why. Something you NEVER do. Do you plan to ever attempt to exegete any scripture? You can't be expected to be taken seriously otherwise. You are very delusional if you think you have corrected...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Doug, your lies continue. You have no conscience. Seeing a time reference as symbolic doesn't mean we don't believe it's referring to an actual period of time. For example, we don't try to say the thousand years is a fictional period of time. No, we see it as symbolically representing the time...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil, Premil, poster list

    Actually, it will be, but "here" will be "in the air" (1 Thess 4:14-17) and not heaven. Agree. Since there are end times scriptures that speak of the need to endure to the end to be saved (Matt 24:13), the need to overcome and be faithful unto death in order to receive the crown of life (Rev...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It's not a case of not remembering if I didn't even read it in the first place, which I'm pretty sure I didn't. Doug, there are now well over 1,000 posts in this thread. It's quite possible that I have not read all of them. I don't recall that particular post. LOL. This is just a complete joke...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You mean plainly stated scripture like Matthew 24:35-39, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:10-12 and Revelation 19:17-18 which all say that Jesus will be destroying literally all of His enemies when He returns? Is that the kind of plainly stated scripture that you're saying I supposedly avoid even...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    You contradicted your first statement with your second one. How do you determine that the day of the Lord is 1,000 years if you don't believe one day is equal to a thousand years? You're not making any sense, as usual. How long do you suppose it will take to burn up the heavens and the earth...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Scriptures like Zechariah 14:16-21 talk about animal sacrifices and offerings being performed which is impossible in light of the fact that Jesus made His once for all sacrifice to put an end to old covenant animal sacrifices and offerings forever. Your doctrine blatantly contradicts Hebrews...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil, Premil, poster list

    You say "the Millennium comes after Jesus Returns", but also deny being Pre-mil. Talk about confusion....
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Paul know everything there is to know?

    I asked you a question and didn't make an accusation, so there's absolutely no reason for you to take offense like you apparently did. I asked it because it seemed like you might be agreeing with the ones I was debating about Paul. But, I wasn't sure, so that's why I asked you a question instead...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Mystery Babylon is a CITY Per God's Word

    Trust me, it is how he always acts. His ego is completely out of control. He needs to repent of his pride and humble himself or he is headed for a fall. Absolutely.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Explain how that will work in detail for me, Douggg. If you want me to take you seriously, anyway. Because it's clear to me that what Peter describes in 2 Peter 3:10-13 will happen in direct fulfillment of the promise of Christ's second coming. Peter even explicitly said so. So, please explain...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    He has nothing else. We practically beg them to exegete scripture to back up their claims and they just won't do it.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Oh, yes it is. I'm certainly not going to base it on how you see it. Your future tribulation is completely imaginary because the 70th week is already fulfilled. Yes, and that is sad. Those are all Premil views. Did you know there's more views than just Premil views, Douggg? Were you aware of...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Doug, how could we believe something like that will happen in the future when Peter taught that the Mount of Olives as well as the rest of the earth will be burned up and renewed when Jesus returns, resulting in the new earth? 2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Nonsense. Again, your understanding of his power and authority is flawed. Thinking that it means He has to be like a dictator is a complete misunderstanding of His reign as scripture describes it. It's very plain that you do not understand what scripture teaches about His reign. I gave you...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The fact that he didn't actually answer your questions at all says it all about his doctrine. He couldn't even bring himself to answer "Nowhere" to all 3 of your questions. Your questions were specifically about 1 Thess 4 and 5 and he didn't even reference anything from 1 Thess 4 and 5 in his...