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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    No, I'm not. I'm basing that on knowing who God is. Do you know who God is? Do you know that He created space and time and therefore exists outside of time? To think that one day is exactly equivalent to 1,000 years to Him would suggest that He is confined within the realm of time but just in a...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Doug, I honestly can't make sense of half of what you say. What are you talking about? He does come post-trib according to OUR understanding of the tribulation. Why can't you understand something so simple like this? Why do we have to define the tribulation the way you do? Imagine us demanding...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    After all this time have you never seen my explanations for why I believe what I do? Or is your memory getting bad like Douggg's? Your understanding of what it means for Jesus to reign is faulty. Scripture explicitly teaches that He has been reigning over all things in heaven and on earth since...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Thanks for saying what everyone else already knows, Doug. You need to get caught up on what others believe if you want to have intelligent debates with people. Misrepresenting what people believe because of ignorance doesn't do much for your credibility.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. I'm not doing that. I think you're the only one here who can't remember what people believe, so I'm not going to do something just to appease you. The things I say make it quite clear what I believe if you actually paid attention, so there is no need for me to periodically announce that I'm...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    But, for some reason, you don't understand that prophetic beasts symbolize kingdoms. Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, he was not as you've been shown. Still believe that people stopped eating and drinking 6 days before the flood came? LOL! No, there clearly are not. Such ridiculous and unsupportable claims are not worth my time. It's unfortunate that you have decided to remove many verses from your Bible...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I, of course, have addressed what I disagree with you about many times. You have no idea what it means to truly study scripture objectively without doctrinal bias and in context. I do. That's why I was once premil for a number of years and then became amil because I finally decided to just let...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, it is not. Not even close. That would be like saying the following takes 7 years to occur: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So, I will take this as an acknowledgement from you that those things you mentioned in your post are not referenced in 1 Thess 4 and 5 at all. Why would Paul, who understood Bible prophecy as well as anyone, not have even referenced a time of tribulation between a supposed pre-trib or anytime...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How about giving us some actual exegesis of scripture where you clearly and coherently present an argument in favor of your view? Are you able to do that? It seems that you're not, but please do so if you can.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Did you miss the questions? He asked you to show where your understanding of these things is indicated anywhere in 1 Thessalonians 4 and 5. So, can you answer those questions, please? If you think these things you're describing here are not alluded to at all in any way in 1 Thess 4 and 5, then...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    That was only true up to that point in time back then. What about since then? There are some things written about Babylon that cannot be true of Jerusalem, like this: Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Are you actually quoting Paul, the guy who you think has much inferior Bible prophecy knowledge compared to Peter and John? Why would you do that? Are you just pretending that you trust that what Paul wrote about Bible prophecy is true?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That is an outright lie. I'm talking about actual exegesis of scripture. Do you know what exegesis is? If not, do yourself a favor and learn what it is and start actually doing it if you want to be taken seriously. Of course not. When have I said otherwise? So much time is wasted here on straw...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Doug, I'm concerned that you might be developing dementia or something. I have both told you that I am Amil and said things to you to clearly indicate that I'm amil many times. And you still somehow didn't know I'm amil? That's a bit concerning.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Let me make something clear. I do believe you are a child of God. I just happen to think you are a spiritually childish one. A "babe in Christ" as Paul talked about (1 Corinthians 3:1-3). At least as it comes to end times doctrine. Maybe you have a better understanding of other parts of...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Are you joking, Doug? You have to be. I have made it very clear that I'm Amil repeatedly on this forum.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why would you be surprised that I don't see something that I consider to be baseless and foolish? There is NO indication whatsoever within 1 Thess 4:13-5:11 that Paul is speaking about more than one narrative there which is in regards to the day that Christ will return from heaven. On that day...