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Now, why do you have to add that last comment? You complain about insults and you throw that in there for no reason. Just leave those kinds of comments out and let's discuss this scripture. Deal? So, you are saying this describes the after effects of a pretrib rapture, right? Please explain...

It's not a personal attack against anyone, it's how we really feel about the pretrib doctrine. It's absurd. It's nowhere near being true and we have shown that in this thread. Do you not also feel the same about Amil? It's no secret. Why be so offended?

If the time frames mentioned in scripture have to be literal in order to be included on a timeline then we couldn't include the 70 weeks of Daniel on a timeline since they are not literal weeks (not 490 literal days). So, will you remove any reference to Daniel's 70 weeks from your timeline or...

How do you imagine that you can be reasoned with when all you do when asked to exegete scripture and CLEARLY show how and why you believe what you do, you respond with vague comments and charts? That's not how to exegete scripture and is not how to have a serious discussion about scripture. Your...

Doug, you need to repent of your lies. You are trying to make it look as if we believe those time periods are fictional, but that is not the case. For example, we acknowledge that the thousand years has a beginning and ending, but we just don't see it as a literal thousand years just as the...

Neither does he.

Exactly. They try to claim that the marriage has already occurred at that point, when the reality is that it has not yet occurred, but instead the bride is ready for the marriage at that point. This is just another of many examples of how they try to change scripture to fit their doctrine. They...

They think we are just throwing insults around despite the fact that we are asking them repeatedly to exegete scripture so we can see exactly how and why they believe what they do. But, most of them don't even try to do that. Why should we just take their word for it when they make claims? I...

Which you had already done several times. What I don't know is how and why you believe what you do because you won't clearly show that using scripture. That's an obvious lie because I wouldn't ask you to exegete scripture and show me exactly how and why you believe what you do if I didn't care...

And that illustrates the problem. He gives opinions with vague explanations and thinks that's enough to prove his case. It's completely ridiculous.

Amils are also post-trib, so we have every reason to take part in post-trib vs. pretrib debates as post-trib premils do.

LOL. Please show how and why you believe this. I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions back and forth without doing anything to back them up. If that's all you're interested in doing, then you can debate someone else.

There is a known view called Postmillennialism held by some partial preterists and his view lines up with that. Unlike Amils, they think things continually get better in the world until Jesus returns while we believe Satan's little season shows that things get worse until His return. If you...

Your view is called Postmillennialism.

So, you have decided to be rude to me for no reason whatsoever even though you agree with me about Paul. Okay then, buddy.

Gentile. Why do you ask? I love all people, including all Jews, all Gentiles and even all of my enemies. I, like God, want everyone to repent and to be saved (Acts 17:30, 2 Peter 3:9, 1 Timothy 2:4-6). There is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ's church. We are all one in Christ Jesus (Galatians...

Did you bother finding out the context of what he was saying instead of just making assumptions? He wasn't saying God hated their souls. He is saying God hated their actions and took out His wrath on them.

What is this based on? Why was the book addressed to seven first century churches in the ancient Roman province of Asia if most of what is written in it supposedly only pertains to things that happen at or near the second coming and after it?

I always do. Can you? Exegete some scripture for me, please. Show me why and how you believe what you do. Please.

LOL. Look at your own posts. Just a bunch of ranting and raving about nothing. Are you purposely trying to distract attention away from the fact that you are apparently unable to exegete scripture and clearly show how and why you believe what you do? How about you stop rambling and start...