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So, even though this is a thread made specifically to refute pretrib, and you say you don't believe in pretrib, you are not here to refute pretrib and don't care if the pretribs here know what you believe or not. How interesting! LOL! Such a joke. I don't mean that you have never tried to back...

I have referenced scripture far more than you have in this thread and you know it. You are obviously just here to antagonize people like me and WPM. Let me announce once again to everyone who may not know this about you. Everyone, this person, CadyandZoe, denies the deity of our Great God and...

I have some idea, yes, but why should I care about that in relation to what we're talking about in this thread?

Yes, you are. I am telling you point blank that I love all people, including my enemies. Can you not just take my word for that? So what? Paul called the collective group of those who have been made new creations in Christ "the Israel of God" (Galatians 6:15-16). Do you have a problem with...

Maybe you weren't aware of this, but I believe that Jesus will be renewing this earth by fire rather than creating an entirely separate new earth. So, the kingdom will be on the renewed earth (new earth) for eternity. Where is there any indication there that there is a long period of time...

Thank you for being honest and accepting correction. There is nothing wrong with that. We all keep learning new things as time goes on, including me. I learned something about Revelation 10:1-4 recently that I had not realized before, for example. Not going into that here because it's off topic...

You can help being judgmental and making false accusations. Stop doing that. You should know better than that. I'm not saying that the church is the new Israel of God. I differentiate between Spiritual Israel and natural Israel. So, you are continuing to falsely represent what I believe. Stop...

Amen! Another thing I do to show that having part in the first resurrection has already taken place for each of us is show how Revelation 1:5-6 can be used to interpret Revelation 20:6. Look at the similarities here: Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the...

This says it all right here. You think consulting false religion websites is the key to understanding scripture. Not spiritual discernment. Not interpreting scripture with scripture. You think we need to base our understanding of Daniel 9 on the nonsense that those who are part of the false...

That reminds me of one certain thing that Premils believe that blatantly contradicts scripture. 1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all...

I'm trying to put an end to all that by just talking about scripture. Which side of the debate has called the other "Satan", "evil spirits" while comparing them to "gay guys" and supporting trans people and so on? Well, good for you. I don't care what you think about that. I know better. Be...

Do you not care if everyone else posting in this thread knows what you believe or not? Why are you even here? You know that I think your doctrine is a complete joke and your denial of the deity of Christ bothers me greatly. So, are you just trying to annoy me? Is that your purpose in being here...

You make claims and don't back them up with scripture. What good is that? Is it too much to ask you to actually show how you come to your conclusions the way people like WPM, jeffweeder and I do? Is that too much effort for you? Scripture repeatedly indicates that no mortals survive the second...

You said "in brief", so I will try to make it brief. Answering your questions in order... 1) For God to get people to make their final decisions on who they want to follow (Christ or Satan) because the time is short. 2) I'm not sure what this question means exactly, but I would say it comes...

Hello, friend. You have a few good insights that you've shared, but I have to tell you that you are mistaken about a future earthly temple and kingdom being set up when Christ returns. Scripture simply does not teach that. It teaches that we (believers) will be changed to have immortal bodies...

But, you are pre-trib in the sense that you believe the rapture will occur before "the great tribulation", so as far as I'm concerned you should be lumped in with the rest of the pre-tribs with the understanding that we don't all have the exact same understanding of what the tribulation entails...

Apparently, you are not willing to do ANYTHING to back up any of your claims. What a waste of time it is to talk to you. Shame on me for even bothering to do so.

Where did Jesus teach that? And why are you unwilling to answer my question as to why Paul made no mention of Jesus coming to the earth? Are you afraid to answer that question?

I already told you. Is "the truth of scripture" too vague for you? This thread teaches the truth that the pretrib doctrine is false and also happens to teach that amil is true at the same time. There are plenty of lurkers out there who are undecided about these things and trying to learn about it.

Doug, you're back to lying again. We discuss Daniel 9:24-27 quite a bit. You can't possibly have missed that. Also, we talk a lot about the NT time period which I believe is symbolically represented by the 42 months, 1260 days and time, times and half a time references. Just because i don't...