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Tell us your understanding of exactly what the tribulation entails then. We probably all should do that in order to clarify what each of us is actually talking about when we say pre-trib or post-trib. We amils repeatedly indicate that our understanding of it is that it consists of spiritual...

Can you tell me one particular post when you were clear about what the point is that you are trying to make in this thread? Can you explain why you came as a post-trib, to this thread that clearly was made to refute pretrib, to debate post-trib amils instead of pretribs?

Doug, will you please stop foolishly trying to represent what we believe? You make yourself look really bad when you do that. You don't have a clue of what we believe and you have proven that over and over again. With our understanding of the tribulation, we ARE post-trib, so stop saying we're...

You're making Douggg so sad here. He so badly wanted you to buy Corel Photoshop Pro since apparently no other software can be used to make decent charts. Oh well.

Just watch out for that unexpected and sudden emotional destruction that is coming like a thief in the night. We don't want to be caught completely off guard and be among those who don't escape it. Like Peter said in 2nd Peter 3, there will be emotional fire coming down on the entire earth at...

Translation: You know I'm right and have no answer for it.

Not at all. I just point out the truth which is that you and your fellow pretribs are incapable of exegeting scripture which is why you never do so. You know you can't. When you actually examine scripture closely and in context, it's obvious that it comes nowhere near teaching pretrib.

Maybe on one finger? Why do you suppose that you are so special that God would choose to only reveal the truth of end times scripture to you? Do you have any idea how that comes across? I was off here last night and part of today and am getting caught up. Up to that particular point you had...

Translation: You have no interest in actually exegeting scripture and would rather just give a bunch of unsupported opinions and think that's enough to convince anyone that you have any idea of what you're talking about.

It is not two events. That is a baseless and foolish belief. Who escapes the "sudden destruction" that will come on the day of the Lord? Those who are caught up by the rapture. Who else will escape it? No one. As 2 Peter 3:10-12 makes abundantly clear. You told me that you believe 2...

LOL. Are you being serious here or are you just a clown? Are you seriously trying to say something about my view when YOU are the one trying to say that Paul is talking about emotional destruction in 1 Thess 5:2-3 coming on the day of the Lord from which "they shall not escape"? Please explain...

You are doing a horrible job of explaining whatever point it is that you're trying to make. Sure, you don't necessarily have to quote every scripture reference, but you have to do SOMETHING to show what point you're making. In this thread you are doing almost NOTHING to show that. Which makes me...

Drop the mic. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge the deity of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ needs to be exposed for the wolf in sheep's clothing that he is.

I'm just shaking my head over here. That is what we believe! I'm talking about Amils like me, WPM, jeffweeder, covenantee, rwb, etc. Goodness sakes, Doug. After all these years you still don't even know what we believe? Take your eyes off your charts for a minute and learn what other people...

Here you are again trying to tell us how we should understand the tribulation. You have delusions of grandeur that lead you to believe that you are the one who defines terms for us. You need to humble yourself and acknowledge that this is not up to you to decide. LOL. Call it the post-trib...

LOL! That opinion deserves to be endlessly mocked. It's insane and absurd and reflects how desperate he is to keep his doctrine afloat. He will literally do anything to keep it afloat. There is no scripture that he won't twist beyond recognition in order to support his pet doctrine. Just think...

LOL! Translation: You have no ability whatsoever to make a coherent argument using scripture. As proven by the fact that you don't even attempt to do so.

They all think they prove something by just spewing their incoherent opinions while NEVER actually exegeting scripture. You can't get any more delusional than that.

I agree that Jesus's doctrine is simple, but yours definitely is not. As everyone can see whenever you actually try to explain it. You have shown a tremendous lack of spiritual understanding in your posts.

The purpose of this thread is primarily to refute pretrib, so you introducing a different view than pretrib, which is also a different view than the one held by those of us refuting pretrib in this thread, is not very helpful and only causes potential confusion. So, maybe we should start a new...