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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, exactly. Their interpretation of the book of Revelation blatantly contradicts what Jesus taught in the Olivet Discourse and what Paul taught in 1 Thessalonians 5. Both Jesus and Paul indicated that people would be at peace and believe they were safe while doing their normal daily activities...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, it does not. And you can do nothing to prove that. You are obviously incapable of exegeting scripture and showing exactly how it supports your claims. Otherwise, you would have done that by now. Your opinions mean nothing without scriptural support and you do not even attempt to use...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly. They have no problem with comparing the days before the flood and the days before the fire came down on Sodom to the days before Jesus comes, but somehow they miss that Jesus also compared the day of His second coming to the day when "the flood came and destroyed them all" and the day...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is your excuse for your ignorance? This is a serious question. Are you too lazy to consult Hebrew and Greek resources for further understanding of scripture? The English word "many" there is translated from the Hebrew word "raḇ". Most often the word is translated as "great", like in the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The next time you or any other pretrib here exegetes scripture and provides a coherent argument will be the first time.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    We have proven that MANY times., so that is no burden at all. You just ignore what you are told and ignore the many holes in your doctrine. LOL. Think again. That's a nonsense view just like yours. LOL. You are a comedian, Doug. Maybe you should try that as a career.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It's amazing to me if anyone ever does agree with his beliefs or his charts. He definitely has some beliefs all to himself as do some other lone wolves on this forum.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No problem at all. You might as well just ignore his posts completely since he's not interested in accurately reflecting what we believe. Which seems to be on purpose. Either that or he is not able to understand what anyone tells him.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you actually think we would agree to give this label you described to our view when you know very well that this is not what we believe as amils? You're showing a premil view for one thing, and we do NOT believe that He could return any day before the day of His second coming as we've made...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, it isn't. Despite having explained my view very plainly to him, he still doesn't get it. He followed up your post by saying: "Are you going to go for the "any day rapture view" as well ? Defined as that your view spans the rapture could happen"any day" between and including today and the...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why are you acting as if I believe the rapture and His second coming could be on different days when I have never said such a thing at all? I have clearly indicated repeatedly that the rapture happens on the same day of Jesus's second coming. It is part of His second coming when everything will...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Well, that's obviously not my view, right? So, why would I want to put that same label on my own view as you suggested? LOL. Come on, Doug. We both believe the rapture could occur at any time, but it would be silly for us to label our views the same since you say it can happen "Anytime between...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    This guy is definitely a liar. And I'm telling everyone I come across about how he undermines the teachings of Paul and says we can't trust Paul because he didn't have a full understanding of prophecy (a big lie!), but can only trust what is written by John and Peter. As if Paul's writings are...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Oh, did another one somehow get through? Aw, too bad. I guess you'll have to contact support to figure that out for you. LOL. Miraculously, that never happens to me for the people on my Ignore list. Go figure. I guess you're just unlucky.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    Are Gentile believers not His people, also? Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    You are being foolish. No one here has said they hate Israel. Not even close. How does someone pointing out that God judged them and punished them in the past mean that the person pointing that out hates them? We are commanded to even love our enemies and so I do. I love everyone and I don't...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    LOL. That reason is obviously because you purposely still take a look at what I'm saying sometimes because you miss me. The ignore feature works here. I know that because I have a few people on ignore as well. It works without fail. So, I know you are lying here. That is typical of you.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. I love how you foolishly think you can try to tell me what I believe. Based on my understanding of the tribulation, my view is post-trib. It is absolutely foolish for you to try to say otherwise. I don't need to agree with your understanding of what the tribulation entails. I would never...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I don't need you to define "the tribulation" for me. You always have this imagined authority that you don't actually have. You are talking about one particular post-trib view that some have (mostly, if not only premils have it but an amil could technically have that view as well), but it is not...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Three rapture views, three charts

    A chart showing how the pre-trib rapture view comes across to me: