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Don't you believe in 5 raptures? You are a pre-tribber, a pre-pre-tribber, a post-tribber and who knows what else. Your beliefs are so convoluted that your doctrine just can't be taken seriously.

Noah and his family. They are true believers who are saved like Noah and his family and like Lot and his daughters. They were taken away from God's wrath on the same day that God's wrath came. It will be like that when Jesus comes and the rapture occurs. We will be taken up to meet the Lord in...

So, you're saying Paul was confused then? He did not teach what you're saying here. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Only doctrinal bias can...

It doesn't have to say it. That should be obvious. A parable consists of made up people who represent real people and made up scenarios that represent real life scenarios. Luke 16:19-31 doesn't fit that description. Those answers contradict each other. You said "Yes" to the question "Do you...

I do not deny that they are alive in any sense as your previous comment implied. What you said there gave the impression that I don't believe they are alive and conscious in any sense and that is a case of misrepresenting my view.

That is the truth. I wish we could somehow know how many lurkers there are, but I'll assume there are enough of them to make this worth it.

This post contains a very thorough exegesis of scripture using very sound logic and reasoning. So, pretribs will naturally have no interest in it since exegesis and sound reasoning are foreign concepts to them.

You try to come across as authoritative here as if you actually know what you're talking about, but your arguments are far less than convincing. Give me one good reason that Luke recorded Jesus's answer to both of the disciples questions that they asked before He gave His Olivet Discourse, but...

You took quite a leap in logic here. How exactly does Luke 17 prove that Luke 21:20 is not involving what Matthew 24:15 is involving? Why do you only use Luke 17 to understand Matthew 24:15 and not Luke 21:20-24? That comes across as a very biased approach to Matthew 24. All 3 (Luke 17, Luke 21...

Yes. Yes. No. There's no reason to think that Jesus couldn't say something similar about what would happen in 70 AD as what would happen at His second coming because each event involves God's wrath coming in the form of complete destruction. In the case of what happened in 70 AD, it was the...

Look in the mirror. I can say the same to you. You immediately dismiss the idea that Daniel 12:1 and Matthew 24:21 could be referring to tribulation on different scales (global vs. local) because it doesn't live up to your standards as to what qualifies as reasonable. Don't try to act like you...

Goodness gracious. I suggest from now on you find out if someone is alive or not first before trying to contact them (kidding).

I won't address any scripture? Are you kidding me? I have addressed far more scripture than you ever have and you are telling me this? I'm done with your lies and nonsense. This is a waste of time. I'd rather talk to honest adults.

Do you ever look at context? What day or hour was Jesus talking about there? All we need to do is look at the previous verses to see what day and hour He was talking about. Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her...

I wonder, do they think Paul teaches replacement theology in Romans 11? We simply believe what he taught there. If that's called replacement theology, then I have no problem with believing in that. But, the reality is that Gentile believers did not replace unbelieving Israelites. Instead...

It's appropriate that the most well known presentation of the pretrib dispensational doctrine is found within fictional novels since it's a fictional doctrine.

We have blatant liars on this forum and it's sad to see. They feel no guilt for their lying.

Wow, this is very convincing. I would never call any scripture nonsense and you know it. If you're just going to lie like this then I have no interest in discussing anything with you. Show me then, liar. Show me where I called something in Daniel or something that Jesus said was nonsense. Oh...

Show me where he said anything personal about pretribbers in his original posts. Pretribbers started making it personal later, but that was clearly not his intention to make things personal. He attacked the doctrine, not the people who believe in it. Well, here is your chance then. Present a...

No, I've had a nice day. I just don't like wasting time on your childish nonsense. Maybe if you acted like an adult, things would be different. I absolutely did not. Why should I waste time with someone who lies about me like this? Show me where I called the word of God nonsense. Good luck with...