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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Right. And why did he do that? For the benefit of his Gentile audience who would not have known anything about the prophecy in Daniel. Imagine Luke writing "whoso readeth, let him understand" to the Gentiles. As if they could possibly understand. They did not have any exposure to Daniel's...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    All this back and forth repeating ourselves is making me nauseous. So, let me just ask you this. Assume for the sake of argument that Luke wrote about the same thing as found in Matthew 24:15-22 and Mark 13:14-20. Considering that Luke was writing primarily to Gentiles, do you think he would...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    My arguments revealed a fatal flaw in your logic and you won't admit it. You did not apply the same logic you used to determine that the second question in Luke was "a sign that the destruction of Jerusalem was about to take place." to Mark 13:4 as well. That is because of your doctrinal bias...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    How many Olivet Discourses do you think there were? There was only one. Do you understand that Matthew was writing to a different audience (Jews) than Luke was (Gentiles)? What do you think, that the disciples asked Jesus 4 different questions in the Olivet Discourse? You're not making any sense...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Why don't you stop being lazy and actually find out how I interpret that verse first before declaring that I'm supposedly ignoring the word "therefore"? All you had to do was ask instead of making false assumptions. It's undeniable that Jesus was asked two questions (some say 3) in the Olivet...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly. It's like someone thinking they've made a great movie just because it has some nice special effects while at the same time it has a terrible story with many plot holes.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Terrible analogy. No chart is necessary to understand scripture. That is a fact. However, the drawings construction contractors use are necessary in order to build their buildings.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, he absolutely did. Only extreme doctrinal bias would lead someone to think that he was referring to some other day in 2 Thess 2:2 than he referred to in 2 Thess 2:1. He then referred to "that day" in verse 3. 2 Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    He is explaining his reasoning as well. Doesn't mean it makes any sense, though. Not any more sense than thinking Jesus repeated Himself in the Olivet Discourse without including any clarification that the exact same words He had already used were used in a different context (supposedly).
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennial interpretation is utterly out of the question, Rev. 19

    Whoa, that makes it even worse. Sorry you had to experience that. Yes, that is what matters in the end.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    But what did the Word (John 1:1) say? Shouldn't we let Him decide this? Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Says the guy who believes Jesus said the exact words "Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:" and "And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!" twice in the Olivet Discourse. Talk about confusing!
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why would he need to do that? Can you not understand words? How did you come to believe what you reflect in your charts? Did it not come from the words you read in scripture? Did you need to look at charts in order to understand the timing of things? No, right? There are no charts in scripture...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, and Paul used the phrase "the day of the Lord (Christ)" to refer back to "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him", which is an obvious reference to this: 1 Thess 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Blahblahblahblahblah....see, I proved you wrong. Irrefutable. :rolleyes: Are you just incapable of making a coherent argument? Is that why we don't see you even attempt to do so?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Does he think we can't see how afraid he is to even attempt to exegete scripture? He knows he can't do it without exposing his false doctrine. I don't know who these people think they are fooling, but they aren't fooling anyone who approaches scripture objectively, that's for sure. That those...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Name one person here who believes that any believers will experience God's wrath directly upon them?
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    I love questions like this which basically questions whether I believe scripture or not. Good grief, man. What is wrong with you? Of course I believe that. I just happen to have a different understanding of the identity of the two witnesses than you do. The two witnesses are described...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Genesis 7:11-13 couldn't be more clear, but he has to cut that passage out of his Bible. Just like Luke 17:26-37 which very clearly teaches that those who are not taken and are left are all killed. He denies that clear teaching as well, forcing Him to remove the passage from His Bible. And he...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Look at this nonsense. If you only knew how unconvincing your arguments are. You've been shown from what Jesus said in Luke 17:26-37 what happens to those who are left. They are killed. But, you continue to try to twist scripture and come up with some way that they will survive.