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I thought so...:)

Do you want my answer, or do you already know and are just asking John for his reason?

I don't see much difference...

That's what I like about you. You are humble and want truth more than being right. You're a real man. You also are not intimidated by searching the truth in contradictions, even if it means you have to dump denominationalism. I remember when I was 23 (I'm 72) and got the shock of my life. I...

Right. What needs to be born again is not only the awakening of our dead spirit, but changing our old carnal nature of flesh to the divine nature of the Spirit.

Bump to whom?

All Calvin would have had to do was read 2 Peter 1:9. It is only our past sins that were cleansed, not also our present and future sins. That knowledge would have brought him to the truth by him having to ask, so how do we not willfully sin in the present and future? The answer, a new nature -...

Okay, definitely Calvinist, not Arminian nor scripture.

The seven letters from Jesus were three-fold letters, so yes one of the directions was universal, one to the current towns of that time, but the third is the different ages of church history.

Yes, I have to agree about dying spiritually. God's killing the clean animal for their clothing instituted for them a sacrifice (for their sins they would continue to commit with their damaged nature, though these sacrifices were to them thank you offerings until the Law, because even though God...

@Marymog This is the church age of Pergamos, the church age when the books were being canonized. The Compromising Church 12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write, ‘These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword: 13 “I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s...

They wouldn't care about my experience, any more than I care about theirs. We all have to work out our own salvation and walk with the Lord.

Good point, and I agree.

I KNOW the voice of the Spirit, but you don't have to believe me, just believe Him. Knowing His voice is WHY 100% of my prayers are answered. Were theirs? I doubt it. Your accusations tell me you are demonstrating the spirit of the accuser of the brethren. Why allow it in?

Go to the Author and ask.

I couldn't care less what "scholars" believe. They are only opinions and assumptions. I'll keep listening to the Holy Spirit. You do what you like.

My "proof" is in understanding Revelation 2 and 3.

@Enoch111 Penal Substitution is not the P in TULIP so why does anyone think this started in the Reformation? It is clearly Scripture. Arminians and Calvinists alike believe this.

"Differ" with David or with me? I too believe you must endure to the end, but it comes from the power of the Holy Spirit, otherwise the Law could have saved us. But the Law was weak through the flesh, Romans 8:1-9 and only produced the struggle of Romans 7, not yet having the Spirit in Romans 8...

I believe we will either be one of four things when we die. Two categories go to hell; two go to heaven. The two that go to heaven are the righteous, and the holy. There will be no sinners. Revelation 22:11 Good night. Great conversing with you.