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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    A possibility. Do you really think that is what Jesus had in mind when He indicated that they should pray that they wouldn't have to flee during the winter? To avoid a small possibility that it would snow? Come on, Doug. Please be honest here. That can't be what Jesus was saying. So, tell me...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    LOL. And how hard is it to drive there during the winter when it rarely even snows and, even if it did, there are these things called snow plows to take care of that. It doesn't even snow much at all in Jerusalem or Judea and he compared the weather there to Alaska. And actually expects people...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    Great story. A movie should be made about this. It's fascinating what people come up with when they interpret figurative text literally (as you do with taking the earth opening its mouth literally) and change things like a metaphorical flood into an earthquake. This is typical of pre-trib...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    David, I can't take you seriously about this unless you can tell me why fleeing in the winter or on the sabbath would be difficult in a non-literal sense and why it would be difficult for pregnant women or nursing mothers to flee in a non-literal sense. And tell me what Judea and the mountains...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    LOL. Are you seriously comparing the winter weather in Jerusalem or Judea to Alaska? My point about it not making sense to have any concern about fleeing during the winter in the Jerusalem area is quite valid, but it's no surprise that you would just try to dismiss it instead of taking it into...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    This isn't a competition. We're just discussing scripture and sharing our interpretations. Just getting someone to understand my points feels like a win at this point. I get misunderstood often. Sometimes, it seems more like a case of people making things up that I supposedly said than a case of...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    LOL. I'm talking about more than one having the truth about these things, at least. It is highly improbable that anyone else in the world agrees with some of the things that you believe. So? What is your point? That means nothing to me as I am not a Catholic. They also believe that Jesus Christ...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Well said, Jeff. I couldn't agree more. Scripture repeatedly talks about believers needing to keep our faith until the end and endure to the end (of our lives or of the age, whichever comes first). But, pre-trib inexplicably says we don't need to keep our faith and endure anymore 7 years before...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Says the guy who told me in another post that I believe that Jesus needs to be redeemed when I've never come close to saying any such thing. That would be blasphemy for anyone to say that. Stop your nonsense, hypocrite! You are the liar. You are the one who makes it personal. I would never say...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Are you just asking to be reported and banned from here because of your blatant lies? Is that what you want? No, I do not say Jesus needed eternal life! What is wrong with you? Please seek help. For you to say something like this to a Christian shows that you are not well. Not at all. Something...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    That's the question I should be asking you since you misrepresent what I believe so often. I know what you believe and I know that it's complete nonsense. By "nonsense", I'm not saying I can't understand what you believe, I'm saying that it does not line up at all with what scripture teaches...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Do you have anything to offer besides lies? I absolutely do NOT deny a physical resurrection. I simply see that as being described in John 5:28-29 rather than John 5:24-25. Do you understand what it means for someone to be dead in their transgressions and sins? Do you understand that Paul...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Agree completely. I particularly like what you said towards the end here. If people would just learn to interpret scripture with scripture properly, then passages like Matthew 25:1-13 become very clear as to what they mean. As you indicated, after the door is shut, surely Jesus will not tell the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    But, you said yourself "The authorities of the beast-king and military will know exactly where in the mountains them in Judea flee to.". So, fleeing does them no good to avoid being persecuted since "the authorities of the beast-king and military" would know where they are and be able to...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    :rolleyes: If this was the case, why isn't it explained in scripture? Both Jesus and Paul gave a lot of clear and straightforward details regarding the second coming of Christ and, yet, neither of them said anything about "the spring barley harvest and the summer wheat harvest". You are adding...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Goodness sakes. Calm down. Why don't you give him a chance to explain before accusing him of lying? He may be talking about a word that kataxioō is derived from or something along those lines. Why don't you wait to find out before losing your mind and accusing him of lying? Anyway, it seems...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    And, yet, you somehow believe that 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 occurs before the tribulation even though it describes a gathering from heaven and earth at the second coming of the Lord. :confused: Gathering from heaven at the second coming of the Lord: 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    And where is your proof for this? You should know better by now to make a claim like this to me without backing it up. I completely disagree. That's not what Jesus indicated there. He indicated that He would only come on them as a thief if they did not repent. He absolutely did not say He would...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    Which one of us has to change the text to fit our view? I'll give you a hint. It's not me. You are putting yourself in the Twilight Zone but resorting to changing the text instead of leaving it as is. Did you see the conclusion you would have to draw if you used your understanding of...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Confirming of the Covenant - Daniel 9:27

    What's the point of fleeing then? Not all women who are pregnant and not all nursing mothers are in the hospital. Most are not. So, I don't buy this explanation at all. Jesus indicated that it would be a problem for all pregnant women and nursing mothers, and that was a problem in 70 AD. LOL...