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A vitally important subject indeed, but also ppl can go round and round, if not convicted of it.

Would be v. hard - impossible - to show from Scripture...

@Helen back some weeks: It's anyway become regarded as so mainstream now, hasn't it?

Good to have ppl's various poll responses, anyway...

Ephesians 2.8-9 is pretty clear, anyway...

Dispensationally and theologically very odd now...

When someone has a real skill or flair it can be really good to pursue it sooner or later, anyway.

@Deborah_ Good point; this is what I was thinking about. So it's hard to define any failure to become implanted in the placenta as an abortion.

Oh it was a killer...a dark period of history...but both the East's and the West's authorities were pleased it was erected: the East (because it stopped citizens from escaping; whereas they said it was to stop capitalism from entering. The West, because it defused tensions with Berlin a possible...

Hi, Ms. Sharon, good to see you on the forums.

John 14.27 can be known in the most difficult of circumstances; some of us have experienced this, by His grace. Keep praying; thinking of your mother.

This was after the Wall came down that I bought a piece (whoever sold it was making a great profit on tiny pieces that visitors were buying...)

@Josho Yes, this new thread of yours is really taking off... :)

I bought a piece of the Berlin Wall for a young friend, when I visited there...

I heard of someone who retired at 48 with a weak heart...and died of heart problems...at 101... :)

@Prayer Warrior Good point! This is of course why some ppl are reluctant to get any ink; some ppl, though they don't like needles, really want to do it, to have just a bit (even a cross or Christian fish sign <>< on the underside of a wrist, etc.) that they do try to tough it out.

'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, And grace my fears relieved. How precious did that grace appear The hour I first believed!' :)

There sure was... :)

I think you guys in the US have a political element there that you probably think about, that elsewhere would not be an issue so much....but I can't speak for US citizens.