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No. You are falsely equating believers with unbelievers (who once believed). You have to ask yourself why does Hebrews talk about the sin that has no atoning sacrifice?

Romans 6:12 The Voice 12 Don’t invite that insufferable tyrant of sin back into your mortal body so you won’t become obedient to its destructive desires.

God certainly did say exactly that with the vine that does not produce fruit

I call BS on that. Only by actually obeying God - not merely suggestions or exhortations - is your faith demonstrated to be more than lip service.

Contradicts scripture. Romans 6:12 The Voice 12 Don’t invite that insufferable tyrant of sin back into your mortal body so you won’t become obedient to its destructive desires.

So goes OSAS doctrine. Yet, you reject universalism. I’ll go with what the Bible says, generally, and Jesus, in particular. Romans 6:12 The Voice 12 Don’t invite that insufferable tyrant of sin back into your mortal body so you won’t become obedient to its destructive desires.

Agreed - as long as one stays obedient. For some reason, you are not taking any responsibility for obeying the many commands given to believers and the many verses that say failure to obey is death, that lip service is insufficient.

When they return to the sins of the flesh. Specifically, when they fail to repent of their sin.

We are adopted. We can choose not to accept our adopted inheritance.

For some reason, lip service ranks high with OSAS. Jesus tells us and God tells us over and over again it is obedience that matters. Action is how you know it is real. This is the lesson from the OT. It is real until their actions bring the wrath of God on them.

Totally untrue! We have to first put in the work of actually believing. We have to first humble ourselves in truly inviting him to be our Lord and Savior. Here is where your contradiction is revealed. We can undo our own work that is a prerequisite to salvation.

Ferris and I do not promote a works based salvation but no matter what I say, that is what you hear.

This totally denies believers can and do sin. It totally denies why Jesus told people to Sin No More.

OSAS goes against the Parable of the Sower found in Matthew 13:1–23, Mark 4:1–20, Luke 8:4–15. Guess what?! Jesus does not value professions of faith but actually doing the will of God in Heaven. Matthew 7:21. How can you not get this?

Agreed. Where we differ is when people don’t act differently anymore.

Except when it is undone. Then you claim the person was never REALLY born from God.

Agreed. They don’t have the Spirit of the Lord, which is where Liberty will be found. And they certainly do not possess the Fruit of the Spirit! You know this due to the many name calling posts. They should be ashamed of themselves. People are not saved by having right doctrine. Believers with...

Agreed. Creating the myth that the child is the parent sure is a created falsehood. To your way of thinking, the only way not to be an antichrist is to violate the 1C. Think about that.

This is because your thinking is contradictory. Then actually doing something is required. Then actually refraining from certain actions is required. OSAS is a contradiction, supposing action is not required when it is clearly revealed here in your post.

What part don’t you understand? Jesus is not a rapist, forcing himself on others against their will. People have to act, to voluntarily go to him, not just once and done but in an ongoing basis. Jesus does not go to people who have not previously turned to him in each moment of temptation. God...