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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Why are there so many liars on this forum? Christians should know better than to lie. Where are you seeing the word "the" before "great tribulation" here: Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    Yes, lying is a sin. I'm not making that up. So, stop doing it. Congratulations. Without showing how it had anything to do with the rapture. Just quoting the scripture without saying anything about where it supposedly referenced the rapture is pointless. It said nothing about the rapture. If...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    If you are going to make ridiculous claims that I'm denying that Jesus meant what He said then we're done. Are you going to continue doing that or not? There's no need to make this personal by acting as if I am purposely denying what Jesus said. I NEVER deny what He said. I might interpret it...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Where are you seeing the words "and", "but" or "for" at the beginning of this verse? In verse 14 Jesus completes one train of...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    And how are you doing that? I don't see it. You don't realize how hard you are to follow. Can you try to communicate more straightforwardly? And can you try to have enough respect to answer my questions first before I answer yours? And I will do the same.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    I never said that the context of those two things are the same. Obviously, persecution of believers and God's wrath are two entirely different things. I disagree that Jesus was still talking about the persecution of believers starting in verse 15. He was asked two different questions and...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    You need to learn to communicate more clearly. I have no idea of what your point is in this post. Also, I asked you what your understanding is of the first question the disciples asked Jesus as recorded in Matthew 24:3 (also Mark 13:2 and Luke 21:7). What were they asking Him about with that...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    You've seen my posts. You've given reactions to some of them. Do I seem like someone who doesn't respond to people's questions? If someone is distressed then they are going through tribulation. They go hand in hand. There is no basis for trying to act as if there's some big difference between...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Blind Guides and Deluded Followers

    So, think about it. OT saints are saved by the blood of Jesus then, right? How can they be saved by the blood of Jesus, but not be in His church? That makes no sense whatsoever. They knew a Redeemer and Deliverer was coming to save them. They may not have known who or exactly how, but they...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    I don't understand your argument here. The wrath is associated with "great distress" (Luke 21:23). What is the difference between "great distress" and "great tribulation"? Nothing really. So, how are you concluding that tribulation can't be God's wrath? It most certainly can. Sure, a majority of...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    I have a lot of scripture to prove that you are wrong, but you ignore it. Scripture teaches in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 and 1 Corinthians 15:22-23;50-54 that the dead in Christ will be not resurrected and their bodies will not be changed to be incorruptible and immortal until Jesus's second...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The dead in Christ. Per Pretrib, who all are they meaning?

    I made a little joke and you made a big deal out of it. I should have known that would happen. I guess the thread has already gone off topic at this point, so why not. I guess I'll respond to what you said in this post even though it's not related to the topic of the thread. I actually didn't...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Blind Guides and Deluded Followers

    You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying that Jesus brought the OT saints into His church by way of His death and resurrection. Do you believe that OT saints are saved any other way except through faith and the blood of Christ? If so, you are sadly mistaken. Scripture doesn't teach...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    You give that impression every time you try to criticize someone for not taking something in the book in chronological order. Since even you don't take the entire book in chronological order why would you criticize someone else for not taking all of it in chronological order? Seems pretty...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Does it say "THE great tribulation"? No. It says "great tribulation". So, which of us is trying to change scripture to fit our views? It's not me. So? How does that prove that it's people who go through "the great tribulation" rather than "great tribulation" like we all go through (Acts 14:22)...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    What kind of question is this? Please don't waste time with nonsense like this. Yes, I have read that many times. What is your point? Well, that's good because if you were you are failing miserably. I will go against your interpretations of the Word if I disagree with them. I can refute your...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    It doesn't actually say that Satan himself is bound with a chain in the bottomless pit, it says the dragon that symbolically represents Satan is bound with a chain. A dragon can be bound by a literal chain, but Satan cannot. So, a dragon being bound with a chain in the bottomless pit is not...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    No one can understand you, but we're the problem. Okay then.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Good grief. You are not Jesus. There is no reason at all for you to speak in parables. Your unwillingness to communicate more clearly suggests that you are not confident about what you believe. There's no reason to hide it.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    What is not according to KJV? What I quoted was from the KJV! LOL! Again, this is how it is translated in the KJV: Mark 13:1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! 2 And Jesus answering said unto him...