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LOL. I use both the NIV and KJV as well as other translations. I quoted the NIV in this case because it references birth pains, which I believe accurately reflects what Jesus was intending to say there, which is that those things he mentioned would occur with increasing frequency as time went...

Except when it comes to Revelation 20, right? ;)

Very good advice. This is the best post you've ever made. I will take your advice. Goodbye.

All you can do is try to slander me since you have nothing to offer in terms of convincing scriptural evidence to back up your views. I didn't say what you quoted wasn't from scripture, I'm saying there's nothing relating what you quoted to the rapture. Big difference. So, you are lying. I did...

Only physically. But, their spirits and souls are alive. Revelation 6:9-11 indicates they are conscious. Nothing sad about that. The sad thing is you saying something like this with the intention of misrepresenting my view without telling the whole story of what I believe.

Yeah? So? Why didn't you address anything I said? I said that Revelation 7 references "great tribulation", not "THE great tribulation". Have any thoughts on that? Have any explanation for why you are adding the word "the" to the text before "great tribulation"? I pointed out that all of us go...

It is ridiculous to think that we can't find any fulfillment of a Bible prophecy from secular sources. Jesus said this: Matthew 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise...

Yes, I sure have. Thanks for asking. How convenient of you to not put His question "Seest thou these great buildings?" in bold. The context was related to what would happen to "these great buildings". Do you have any examples in scripture of the word "buildings" (plural) being used to reference...

Do you consider it to be honest when we were talking about Jesus referencing "these great buildings" and you act as if He referenced stones instead? Spiritually speaking, the church is a building made up of many stones (believers) with Jesus being the chief cornerstone. Did Jesus say "this great...

Is there not a great multitude in heaven now? Has there not been a great multitude in heaven for a long time already? It does not say they came out of THE great tribulation. It says they came out of great tribulation. Just as we all do. Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he...

Why did you quote that verse when you're lying repeatedly? It doesn't fit with your approach.

So, is it your opinion that what happened in 70 AD had no real significance? A large number of Jews being killed within the city and its temple buildings being destroyed was a non-event and not something worth prophesying about? That event couldn't possibly be related to God's wrath against...

I didn't downplay it at all. Another lie from you. Instead of addressing the points I made, you resort to lying instead. I guess that's all you have to offer.

You are trying to skate around the issue. He referenced "these great buildings", not "these great stones". The stones make up one building. Don't try to change what He said. Be honest with scripture.

Now, here's something we can agree on. I can never understand what he is intending to say. I don't know if he purposely speaks in riddles, but there's no reason to not just communicate straightforwardly like a vast majority of the rest of us do.

Again, you lie. He, like me, does believe a majority of the "Olivet Discourse is about God's New Testament Congregation of Israel, the Church prior to Second Coming in the future". He, like me, just happens to believe that part of it is about the destruction of first century Jerusalem and the...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's nothing anywhere about anyone fleeing into the mountains soon after Pentecost. Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout...

Trying to get this guy to stick to the context of the Olivet Discourse is a difficult, if not impossible, task.

He spoke of both. If you want to insist that He would refer to the church as "these great buildings", then I guess I can't stop you from believing nonsense like that which comes about by way of your supposed spiritual discernment. Now, if He would have said "this great building" instead of...

Normally, it would be, but it's not when you claim the entire book is in chronological order. Since you make that claim, I have to ask that rhetorical question to show that Revelation 11 and 12 alone prove that it is not the case that the whole book is written in chronological order. You have...