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Well thanks for your opinion I will go with the fact of what scripture says I was chosen before time to be confirmed to him people who do not like it are usually NOSAS people who think salvation can not be guaranteed as Jesus did in John 6. But think it is based on us. And can be lost

We need to make sure we complete the passage to see the whole context John 6:35–40 (NKJV): And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37...

It does not counter that fact that god knew each person before time it was not some random thing. He chose based on his will. And his will was that whoever has faith has eternal Life take this knowledge (knowing who will Have faith has eternal life) and predetermining that based on that faith...

Whom he foreknew... this shows predestination can not be separated from foreknowledge god did not just randomly pick and chose

I think it is right there. Just read it as written

you just explained the whole problem it’s not Calvinist. It’s the word of god god did anything because there was nothing we could do the fact you think you can do something. Well that’s the problem. It’s the reason the Jew crucified Christ. They thought as you do

There is only one gospel man peter taught what Paul taught. Jesus crucified and risen again

God never promised all of those things The only thing he promised was JOY, Blessings and gifts He never promised health. and he never promised prosperity (at least not temporal property)

Yes, Like alot of doctrine They miss the context of what is being said, and try to insert their own context.

See this is how the church has you confused Works are works are works, If you do them in order to GAIN, MAINTAIN or NOT LOSE salvation. You believe in a works based Gospel it does not matter if they were prepaired for us, they were done in love, or through grace or whatever If they are done...

oh we can not? I see it in Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Daniel 9, Matt 24, These are but a few verses there are many many more.

ok, I look forward to it Just one question. Paul spoke of a future event, I thought Paul repented many years earlier when Jesus confronted him on the road to damascus

Ok, Let me know that interpretation. Spell it out for me

1. I never said it was not true 2. there are two main groups which would fit 'E' and I was asking which view you were proposing

Again, Show me where I misinterpreted it All I have is your accusation. Try showing me

ok, instead of just telling me how i misinterpreted his words Can you show me, I posted it for you. Break it down for me word for word.

Yes, You mean romans 6? This is something God did to me, We call it baptism of the Holy Spirit Sadly many people falsely interpret this to mean water baptism.

So the verse I just posted means nothing to you? And again I said I can not achieve immortality will you please stop putting words in my mouth.

No, I do no think this, I just think we need to get away from the its me vs you idea of studying scripture. and sit down together with all blinders and prejudgments and presuppositions set aside, and see what we can gleem from the word.. see your trying to make this a protestant thing. When...

again, 1 cor 15 would be of great help to you. We seek to be given what God has promised we will recieve