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https://iol.co.za/news/world/2004-06-30-pope-regrets-crusade-of-800-years-ago/ Pope John Paul II didn’t share the sentiments of the “case closed” crowd, and it is their right not to agree with him on the matter. I’m not persuaded by them (and neither was the Pope.)

He is not my brother but, that salient point aside, I have taken the log out of my eye. The story of how, when, where and why that occurred is posted on the forum. I invite you to read it. From what little I’ve learned about you in the past 48 hours, I don’t think it would be of much interest to...

Those who oppose the teaching of Jesus and the apostles on how to treat enemies are determined to live and die by the sword -> to live as the world lives, not as Jesus, the apostles and the primitive Christians lived. “Do unto my evil enemy as my evil enemy has done or would do unto me” is a...

“You are not a follower of Jesus if you aren’t armed, ready to kill.” Anyone who has read the Ante Nicene Church Fathers knows this assertion is obviously not at all what they believed. https://anabaptistfaith.org/early-church-fathers-on-war-violence-and-pacifism/ Keep in mind what the...

There are hundreds of books which dispel the false teaching of @Wrangler and company on this issue. One that I‘ve highly recommended to my students and to my readers over the years on the early church period is: I’ve quoted from it multiple times on the forum.

Christianity has a long history, both ancient and modern, of conscientious objection @Armour of God, but that is only part of my case. @Wrangler hasn’t put in the work needed to know that (and rejects it out of hand when it is presented to him, as this thread documents). I have. Have you?

I’ve answered all of your questions. Are you ever going to answer my question @Armour of God? You’ve had an abundant amount of time to think it over.

@Wrangler didn’t know who he is and it made no difference to him when he found out. He is a pacifist, one of the most famous, and perhaps the most courageous, in the history of the U.S. military. Highly decorated for his extraordinary service in World War II. You may have seen the movie made...

You lost your case. I said no such thing about the Crusaders.

There is no dichotomy. My words match my actions. Anyone who knows me will tell you that they do @Armour of God.