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  1. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Mock all you want. In my devotional reading this morning from Deuteronomy, Moses talked about the Israeli's having more children than 'stars in the heavens.' It's just a figure of speech. Later in the same book he talks about God 'utterly destroying' a group of people but in the very next verse...
  2. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    What you quote does not support your contention.
  3. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    How did you come to understand this?
  4. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    I don't know who 'we' is but no one is saying the gift of salvation has been taken back by God. Abandoned by the one who may have previously had it, is more accurate.
  5. Wrangler

    Suez Canal

    Any link to support this?
  6. Wrangler

    Suez Canal

    Did you type that with a straight face?
  7. Wrangler

    Does it concern you that gospels were written so many years after Jesus died?

    I disagree. Satan's best weapon = deception.
  8. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    We are saved the moment we accept the Savior. Sanctification is the process that may never end.
  9. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    In another thread, the debater was perfectly willing to concede Acts 17:31 identify the fact that Jesus is a man that God raised. (Of course, trinitarians do not feel nailed down in admitting Jesus was a man due to duality; he was man and non-man.) Silence ensued when I pointed out that Acts...
  10. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    No. Jesus is no kind of God. The resurrected Jesus talked about going to his God, the only God, in John 20:17 and Revelations 3.
  11. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    From a certain POV, that is correct. However, in each case the grace of Jesus is the sole mechanism for salvation, IMO. He is the Savior. This means, he is the one doing the saving. I look at it like this. Humanity is damned, by default. Now, on Judgment Day, Jesus asks what is our get out of...
  12. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    It is figurative. The temple is not the temple.
  13. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    What is your answer? By the sheep’s obedience?
  14. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    God often speaks figuratively. In a recent OT reading God said he would kill all of a group of people. In the very next verse he talked about what would happen to the surviving remnant. Doesn't this mean that when God says all, he means part? (In the alternative, he may have mean the nation -...
  15. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    The 'temple' referred to Solomon's temple the previous 500 times that word was used. His audience did not even grasp he was not making a literal statement. The desperation of trinitarianism is shown in the fact that in the same verse that uses 'temple' figuratively, it is desired another word be...
  16. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    My God man! I provided the relevant Scripture! Acts 17:31. Sad reliance on a figurative verse to go against a literal verse. Jesus is a man. Acts 17:31 could not be more literal, explicit or clear. (It's just that it goes against your theology). What do you have to say about the relevant verse...
  17. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Agreed. While I admit there are verses in support of both positions, I side with Jesus talking about salt losing its flavor and vines that don't produce fruit are destined for fire. I do find the ex post facto reasoning of OSAS ironic; that if someone who was saved turns their back on God, they...
  18. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Jesus is not any kind of God. Phil 2:5 says he is in the form of God, which applies to us all per GE 1:26, all of us are in the likeness (form) of God. Having said that, the man Jesus was humble. The verse below clearly says God raised this man from the dead. (It does not say God incarnate...
  19. Wrangler

    Why is there so much confusion regarding the teachings of the Bible?

    John 14:6 is one of my favorite verses in Scripture! While I agree with your general point, "only" is not in the text. You answered your own question very well below. In another thread, we talked about babies and those who have not heard the Good News. The only other point I'd make in the...