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  1. Wrangler

    Mary’s children?

    See what you 'merely' wrote below. You abuse language my using words to mean something other than how they are defined. Oddly, then you attack the reader for 'assuming' what you meant. Words have meaning and ideas have consequences. You cannot even admit your motivation in this thread is due...
  2. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    I've devotionally read CEV, NLT cover to cover. Partially read ESV & VOICE, my favorite spirit led translation. For my devotionals this year, I am reading NRSV and CJB. I never heard of or read new World Translation. The figurative language of John is amazing but it does not displace the...
  3. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Rubenstein explained the followers of the way attempted to ingratiate themselves to the Romans and blame the Jews for the crucifixion of Christ. The NT writers depict it as a Jewish conspiracy. Jesus' "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's" further divided the agenda of the Jewish rebels from those...
  4. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Yes. If you read When Jesus Became God by Rubenstein, he delves into the agenda. In short, the Christians of the east were not trinitarians. However, the Western Christians embraced mysticism from Pagan's in the areas that Christianity spread. There is a mystical "oneness" that began to permeate...
  5. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    101G, you are trolling this thread. Move along.
  6. Wrangler

    Jesus died for ALL

    This is wordplay to get around the opposition to works, one has to do something to be saved. Some are unwilling to do this work. Therefore, it is a misnomer to say Jesus died for all. Jesus died for those who believe in him AND are willing to do the work of receiving his salvation. Calling...
  7. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    OK. So what is the strongest anti-trinitarian sentence you can write?
  8. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    It’s the same thing with God lying. The verse says a Spirit came to God and proposed putting a lying Spirit to the prophets of the king. God told this spirit to proceed. So, technically God did not lie to 400 false prophets - but he authorized the use of deception.
  9. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    LOL. Their mental gymnastics is so funny. They agree with everything we say BUT disagree also. Mysticism. Dualism. The only reason I reference 1 Corinthians 8:6 so often is that, unlike the Shema, it attacks directly their claim that by one God, it is to be understood as F+ S + HS.
  10. Wrangler

    Who is : The Original Bible Corrector

    Despite your long OP, I strongly disagree. The main reason is you are using Bible Correcting to means the exact opposite. For instance, my NLT Bible explains the original manuscripts have 3 endings to the Gospel of Mark. This note properly corrects other Bible translations that may have...
  11. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    No. I’ll decide if your post answers my question. The question was to construct a stronger anti-trinitarian statement.
  12. Wrangler

    Doctrine and Practice in Ephesians

    I’m sorry to hear that but understand. While Ephesians is my favorite NT book, I’m not sure how to contribute to this thread. Any advice?
  13. Wrangler

    Jesus died for ALL

    Then universalism is correct doctrine.
  14. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    This is not an answer to my question. Beyond that, it is such an illogical statement, it’s hard to imagine worse critical thinking than this. Please stop trolling this thread. This thread is about STRENGTHENING the case against the trinity. Bye now.
  15. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    My question for you to answer is Please construct a stronger anti-trinitarian statement than 1 Corinthians 8:6. I ask because I cannot think of one. Another trinitarian front of error is to always be on offense, always attacking in the form of questions BUT NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS. So, answer...
  16. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    No. As said, I will attack every front your ERROR takes.
  17. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    I have attacked with scripture many times. However, the flaw in your language has many fronts and I am addressing each angle of ERROR. This includes: Logic Language Usage Definitions Mysticism/Dualism Denial Scripture is written by anti-trinitarians. ‘For us, there is one God, the Father’ 1...
  18. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Not accepting your foolishness. Mental gymnastics is not a personal attack. I am attacking your argument, your thought process, your playing word games. I am not attacking you.
  19. Wrangler

    rejecting Jesus Christ is different from the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

    Who are you to say what is accepted or rejected? Who appointed you to this “Board.” From who is it’s authority delegated? Copying and pasting aside, you managed to side step the basic question of this thread and the post you replied to.
  20. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    It is not in the Bible. I know this being I read the Bible and am not ignorant at all. Like before the Protestant Reformation, people believe what they are told the Bible says. Just admit the trinity is not in the Bible and we can move on. Instead, you move the goal posts to claim 'the doctrine...