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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    I would say yes, he is. If we go back to what Peter wrote about in 2 Peter 3:10-12 then we can see it's talking about fire coming down on the earth, not stars. Stars falling to the earth would completely annihilate the earth. How can the meek inherit the earth (Matthew 5:5) when Christ returns...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. Do you actually expect anyone to buy this lame explanation? Think again. Your example was exposed as not being in the same context as the scripture passage from Matthew 7. Just admit that instead of embarrassing yourself with ridiculous responses like this. So, since you gave 3 other...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. In this passage Paul refers to all who belong to Christ being resurrected "when he comes". And then a bit later in the...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    I don't believe it will annihilate the earth, either, but when you read 2 Peter 3:10-12, which is about the same event as 1 Thess 5:2-3, it's quite clear that fire will come down upon the entire earth. But, in my view, it will come down on the entire earth surface and won't just completely...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. You have given me a lot of laughs, as is your job. Keep it up. You are very good at your job. Anyone with even a tiny bit of discernment can see how ridiculous many Catholic doctrines are, so you have not ruffled any of my feathers. Believe me. You are making me laugh.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    I'm sorry, but I can't do that. For me, understanding those things is necessary for understanding what 2 Peter 3:10-12 is about. Maybe not for you, but it is the case for me. So, I don't think it's reasonable for you to expect me to only talk about this from your perspective rather than from my...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    Because it seems that you are not seeing what is described in 2 Peter 3:10-12 as being a physical event. And, just to be clear, the Day of Christ is the day He returns. Agree? Is your only point in this thread to refute the idea that the earth will be completely annihilated (to the core) at...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. Keep the laughs coming. The Catholic church is rarely mentioned on the Eschatology forum, but go ahead and be delusional if you want and think that it's mentioned constantly in every thread. And when you say "you all" it shows you don't even know who you're talking to. I don't associate...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That's not what he said at all. Please read what people say more carefully. Hey, you actually asked a question for clarification instead of just making assumptions! Well done! Please do that more often. Anyway, I know you were asking him, but I have the same understanding of this as he does...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    It's one thing to disagree with someone (I disagree with him, too), but this was completely uncalled for. I would never suggest he's not a Christian just because I disagree with him on this subject. That is ridiculous. Matthew 7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    Okay, let's look at this from another angle. It is important to establish the context of any given passage with surrounding scripture and that is what you're trying to do, which is good. And that's what I do when I use 2 Peter 3:3-7 to help establish the context of 2 Peter 3:10-13. But, the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    Yes, he does. The context of everything he said in 2 Peter 3 is in relation to what he said here: 2 Peter 3:3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    Exactly. I couldn't agree more. Would Peter really describe the destruction of "the rudiments of this world and the works of men" as a case of them melting with fervent heat even in a metaphorical way? I think that would be a very strange way of describing their destruction metaphorically. I...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    So, for the sake of argument, let's assume your interpretation was correct. There would still be the question of what mortal people would still be alive at that point? We know all believers will be changed to have immortal bodies when Christ returns. So, even in this scenario that you're talking...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    Where is there any hint of metaphor being used in 2 Peter 3? There isn't. Once again, Peter compared the future fiery event directly to a past physical, global event. Would he compare the past physical, global event (the flood of Noah's day) to a future metaphorical event? Of course not. He was...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Should the meaning of Greek words affect the interpretation of the passages they are found in?

    Right. I didn't say otherwise. Everything on the surface of the earth was destroyed by the flood waters and that included all of the ungodly. I was not intending to de-emphasize the ungodly being destroyed. You decided that was my intention. It was not. The text itself says the world was...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Sure it does. Just not to you, but many things that are true don't make sense to you. Define what you mean by ruling over someone. What does that entail exactly in your view? Scripture says we are all priests in Christ's kingdom: Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This thread is all over the place with different topics. It seems to have become the thread to discuss every topic people can think of except for the original topic of the thread. ;)
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your useless comments add nothing to the discussion. Total nonsense. Nothing more needs to be said in response to this gibberish. Can you please re-read what you said here and tell me if even you can understand anything you're saying here? I would be surprised if you could. I could just type...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And you can't even comment one time on the topic of this thread. LOL! Keep the laughs coming. Are you a professional comedian? No, we run out of having any desire wasting our time talking to someone who believes so many ridiculous things as you do. What is the point? Go drink some of Jesus's...