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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I didn't break my promise. Do you see me trying to convince you of anything? I know that can't be done. I know your mind is closed to the truth right now. All I did was inform you once more that some of your beliefs are a joke. And now it looks like I did that again. I'll try to make this the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But, do you believe they continue to live and reign with Christ in heaven? If not, then your view is unique to yourself and not shared by other Amils.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not sure why you responded twice to the same post (#8120). In another reply to that same post you said "You could very well be correct.", but the other things you've said don't seem to indicate that you think I could very well be correct.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I see mostly truth being told about your false Church here. Many of its doctrines are a complete joke and I've listed some of them. But, you go ahead and bow down to the pope and think that Mary is sinless and you go ahead and eat Jesus's body and drink His blood if you insist on believing in...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why would I want to prove that when I believe that the mystery of God will be finished and the kingdom of God will be at its fullness once the seventh trumpet sounds? Are you forgetting what my understanding of the seventh trumpet is? The seventh trumpet signals the end of Satan's little season...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    All I can say is that even before he was loose/free (not bound) in Old Testament times, some people were saved. So, that tells me that it's possible for people to become saved even when he is loosed. But, it's more difficult because deception is at a much higher level when he is loosed.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not at all. Just very confused. I'm trying to understand your position on this, but I just don't. Well, I have to disagree to some extent. Your overall Amil view is biblical, but I do not believe your interpretation of the timing of the thousand years in relation to the timing of Satan's little...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is hilarious for you to tell someone else that their topic is irrelevant when every post you've made in this thread is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. LOL! Thanks for the laughs, buddy.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm sorry, but saying that a thousand years can figuratively represent 70 years makes no sense to me. As I said before, in other cases where the word "thousand" is used figuratively in scripture it represents a number large than one thousand. It's one thing to say that someone who lived 70 years...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I agree up to this point. I disagree with this. I believe that people will have the opportunity to be saved right up until the day Christ returns at which point the opportunity for salvation will end. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What are you talking about? I have seen these arguments online a lot of times and I haven't seen much of that. Does your own experience represent everyone's experience? Hardly. Get over yourself. So, just go away then. Nothing is going to change here in that sense and you know that. I can do...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    We disagree on this then. Do you not beleive that Satan's little season occurs in the future? You do, right? I'm pretty sure. The scripture indicates that Satan's little season will begin right after the thousand years ends. In your view, the thousand years has already ended for many people...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes. You're acting like you don't understand that most people do not get all caught up in worrying about what terms are being used. It's what those terms represent that people have a problem with. Get over it. Most people don't do that. Of course I understand that. You know why? Because I'm...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That's reasonable, but since you see the little season of Revelation 6:11 as lasting 3 1/2 years, do you think it's reasonable to see the little season of Revelation 20:7-9 as being a much shorter duration than that? I see a lack of consistency here in your understanding of that term. By the...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It can't, but the way you are wording things can give the impression that you are saying that. You said "a thousand years does indeed equal time". But then followed that up by saying "but not all time". Can you see how that might be confusing? What did you mean when you said "a thousand years...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Thanks for your response. I'll post that passage again for reference: 1 Corinthians 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How long would that be then? What is the maximum amount of time you think it would be that it would still be considered "a very small amount of time"? You indicated before that you believe the "little season" referenced in Revelation 6:11 lasted about 3 1/2 years. Do you consider 3 1/2 years to...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Are you playing dumb or...? No one cares if you use those terms. At least, they shouldn't. It's what those terms represent in Catholic doctrine that people disagree with. No one should make a big deal about what terms people want to use to describe their beliefs.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    Neither have Amils. We just interpret it differently than you do. Saying that we try to move it to match our understanding of the order of events is like saying that someone should move Revelation 12 to somewhere before Revelation 11 since it contains descriptions of things (such as Christ's...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    I was only talking in terms of your understanding of the timing of the thousand years in relation to the return of Christ and not in terms of everything you believe. Your understanding of that is the same as other Premils. It's what makes you a Premil. But, I know you have some beliefs that...