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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    It’s all good I just could not see who you were talking to
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Are you speaking with preacher?
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Oh we can, and have,, I get along with most who agree with you
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Wow where do you come up with this stuff?
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    No you said they chose I am proving to you they did not chose my problem is not with god. It’s with your explanation
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    He still did not chose did he have a chance to chose to say no? of course not he did not chose the person who did cpr chose for them
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    in other words once they are quickened, they can ONLY say yes. again, this is not choosing.. The only way you can chose is if you are free to say no. What you just stated if they have no chance to say no.
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    then they have not chosen. In order to chose. you must have the ability to say no also. I doubt your belief has God quickening a person. and that person in the end say no, or do you think they can?
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    No bro, We do not think this at all. Your twisting what we say and making it seem like we are saying something we have never said nor intended to say please stop trying to determine what you think we mean, actually Both sides needs to stop it. that's why there can never be any proper communication
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    I do not see this I see here blaming God for putting out to "splat" with no hope.
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    yep They still had to COME
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    quite clear. This is context to God drawing us to himself..
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    how do you get this from what she said? Just asking bro. I do not see it
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    yes, that was the point I was making in the first place. We agree
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    what did God say Deuteronomy 27:26 ‘Cursed is the one who does not confirm all the words of this law by observing them.’ “And all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’ ” Paul reiterated this in his letter the the galations Galatians 3: 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    yes, By giving pharaoh strength to do what he wanted to do in the first place. He did nto force pharoah to do anything against his will.
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    yep we are but we are talking about the lost. unsaved jews, Not saved children of God. yes he gave them laws. and yes he demanded perfection. For a reason. TO PROVE TO THEM NO ONE IS RIGHTEOUS NO NOT ONE. (the law was a tutor to bring them to christ) the first step is to SHOW a person their...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    oh they did? Poor saul even Peter and John had to wlk with jesus for 3 years. and they still could not understand what he was supposed to do. God does offer grace to everyone, The mere fact you and I are sitting here having this conversation is by Gods grace. we deserve hell. Every man...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    the word harden means strengthen my friend, Harden is a poor translation God strengthened Pharaohs desire to do what he wanted to do in the first place. And remember, in much of that discussion, Pharoah hardened his own heart many times. if I want to do something, and I know it is wrong, and I...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    your right, I showed another place where jesus showed his will was to do one thing, yet they CHOSE to ignore his will..