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yet many of them chose God BAMN! its like me telling people. Chose do do this and do that, Knowing some CAN NOT CHOSE. I would be deceptive, cunning, and seen as a deceiever, Because I offered a choce to people who had no capacity to make a decision. I first have to show them both sides...

romans 1 is mans state it also says man has no excuse. This applies to judgment day people in the OT never heard of the son of God. yet they were saved. By faith i would not be so picky to try to tell God who he can and can not save

chose this day Jesus said that his will was for Israel to come under his wings, so he could be their mother, but they were unwilling prety much says it all..

does not change the meaning many of those jews were lost, unbelieving dead jews. if what you say is true, They could not chose, because they were dead

yet he drew Judas. so much for that..

amen God is not going to give his gift to people he KNOWS are going to leave in unbelief, because they never had true faith to begin with, He is not going to be mocked. Because he can not be fooled.

when he chose pharaoh, Did he force pharaoh to keep changing his mind, or did Pharoah do what he already desired to do. and God just made sure he was raised up to power When the 30 year old man takes the 12 year old girl and forcibly rapes her. Is it because God force him to do this, or did...

yep But it does not mean they can not understand what God is saying to them when God draws them. In fact Romans 1 says the lost not only know who God is, and what he has done through creation, thus being without excuse. They also understand that the sin they love rightly condemns them.

Romans 2:14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,

Thanks, I learned something today. yeah, i have been called a 2 or 3 point calvinist also. and of course been called an arminian by calvinists.. soo thats why I wish we would stop looking at doctrine and or what men said, But to the word and just discuss that. I think it would be less...

yeah Actually I do Your right, because they can't. Thats why God comes to them, and sends us out to them. So he can draw them to himself. Then the words whoever believe in him are meaningless. The words call out to him are meaningless. The words chose this day who you will follow are...

1 John 2: 18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with...

we lose faith because the one we place our faith in becomes untrustworthy can you name something God is untrustworthy in? Something he should not be trusted with, because he continually fails us, to the point we can possibly lose faith?

if a gift can be given back, the giver is insincere when I give a gift to my child. its hers. Giving it back would be impossible because I would never take it back. I paid for it with my hard earned money and love.

No, I am eternally grateful god who saved a wretched soul as myself. who is totally unworthy. if God gave us what we deserve. We would not be sitting here having this conversation. We would all be in hell. Maybe that's a topic you should look up, and then try to humble yourself with this...

1. I never said they were 2. I disagree. Biblical calvinism is correct in many part. but seriously lacking in others. Actually both from what I see are full of holes and problems. Although I do agree. Calvinists are my brothers and sisters. Because their faith is in Christ. They just mix up...

Once again Bro. Listen to yourself. Do you realize how bad and off base this sounds? Its like a person realizes they are doomed They are broke, completely bankrupt. Homeless. have nothing to cover their nakedness. Have no capacity for Joy, And a person who is perfect love, Perfect Joy Perfect...

so the 5 points counter to calvinism's tulip are not correct. He did not follow those 5 points? If we depend on one work to help us be saved we are depending on to many works. Paul condemned the jews in Galatia because they tried to depend on one work (circumcision)

Yet all those things you just said (remaining in him, working hard not to fall away, falling for false teachings etc etc) are works which they claim must be done to earn salvation. What about eternal life? What about John, who said they left us but were never of us? If I gift can be taken...

listen! The author of scripture wrote what Jesus spoke in Greek. and it was inspired from the Holy Spirit, meaning the HS himself authorised the greek word used for peter and rock. And in that word. It NEVER means a large boulder God used the greek for a reason, because it is a more indepth...