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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Agree. I have to question which cult someone is part of when they deny that the new covenant is in full effect yet. Understanding that the new covenant was put into full effect by the blood of Christ long ago is a fundamental Christian belief.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm glad you found it to be funny, Falser.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    He was saying that all those who are part of spiritual Israel will be saved, not national Israel. Since there are two Israels (see Romans 9:6-8) then you need to determine in which Israel are all saved? The one where being a part of it isn't dependent on one's nationality or the one where being...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What we have here is a failure by you to take scripture like Romans 9:6-8 into account when interpreting that passage. How do you interpret this passage: Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It's too bad you call yourself "Truther" when you spend so much time spreading your false doctrine on here. You should change your name to Falser.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    He could save every person in all nations, but every person has the responsibility to put their faith and trust in Him in order to be saved. He did not promise to "save every future inhabitant of future national Israel at His return". That is your false interpretation of scripture which ignores...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm not here to play games, kid. If that's all your here for, then stop talking to me because I don't want to waste my time with a clown.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Right. Glad we can agree on one thing, at least.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    When did I talk about this? I don't recall doing so. Are you trying to change the subject? You seem to not be able to think straight and stay focused on what is being discussed.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    He saves anyone who puts their faith in trust in Him regardless of their nationality. Will He do more to lead people in Israel to salvation than for people of other nations? That's not possible since God is not a respecter of persons.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, it says "unto them", but are you familiar with the rest of the New Testament which talks about us (Gentile believers) being fellowheirs with them? The covenant made unto them applies to Gentile believers as well. You can't lose sight of that when interpreting any given passage regarding...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You always ask me questions before answering mine or addressing my points first. Why did you contradict yourself? Let's deal with that first. You made a statement. I agreed and asked who said otherwise. And then you said "The Bible". So, you basically said that the Bible says otherwise from what...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Did you even read my post? Why did you not address what I said? I showed you from Romans 11:5-7 where Paul differentiated between "the election" (the remnant of Israel who were saved) and "the rest" of Israel who were not saved. He makes that same distinction in Romans 11:28. Are you afraid to...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    Sheesh yourself. Nowhere in scripture does it say that an unsaved person can be "in Jesus". Only those who are saved are in Jesus/Christ. I never said that. You are the liar. I said that because Jesus is the Christ there is no difference between being in Jesus and being in Christ.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Coming in the future 2 times? That is clearly false. I guess the angels that were there when He ascended didn't get that memo: Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The Bible says otherwise? I was agreeing with what you said and asked who said otherwise? And you say "The Bible". So, now you're saying the Bible says otherwise from what you had said that I agreed with? You need to slow down and actually think about what you're saying because you are just...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Wow. Your lack of discernment is truly unbelievable. Beloved enemies?!! Are you kidding me? God's enemies are not beloved. Have you never read Matthew 23? People like the Pharisees and scribes were God's enemies. Does it look to you like they were beloved when Jesus called them hypocrites and...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Only the election/believers are beloved of God. The unbelievers "are enemies for your sakes".
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is not for national Israel. Not all of national Israel will be saved. This applies to spiritual Israel. Have you never read this: Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Of course. Who said otherwise?