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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where does that say anything about a future thousand years? Nowhere. Did you not understand the question? What he is asking you is for any New Testament scripture besides Revelation 20 that you can use to support your interpretation of Revelation 20. So, is there any?
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I agree, but I don't see how that means what is said in Revelation 21:4 only applies to the church. What does that mean? Take your time. It seems clear to me that Revelation 21:4 is differentiating between conditions on "the first earth" (this earth as we know it) and the new earth. Once the...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How are you coming to the conclusion that it's only talking about "those in Christ at his coming" there rather than making a statement that there will literally be no more death, mourning or pain for anyone ever again at that point? It says "the old order of things" will have "passed away" at...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please read the following passage that talks about the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven. Revelation 21:1Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is that your belief as well? How do you and/or those who see it that way reconcile that belief with it saying that there will be no more death, mourning, crying or pain at that point (Rev 21:1-4)?
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I did not say that, of course. What I'm saying is that I don't see how it makes any sense for a Premil to believe that because Revelation 21:1-4 indicates that there will be no more death, mourning, crying or pain once that occurs. How can that be reconciled with the Premil view when Premils...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    How many ages are there?

    What does that even mean? Jesus spoke of "this age" and "the age to come". He explained key differences between them in Luke 20:34-36. What other ages did He ever speak about? This is nothing more than gibberish. You make statements like this without being able to back them up. As usual, you...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    How many ages are there?

    Right. So, does a passage like 2 Peter 3:10-12 make you rethink your understanding of them inheriting the land of Canaan forever?
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How are you coming to this conclusion? Where are you getting that idea from? I do not believe that there are many premils who believe the following will occur when Christ returns: Revelation 21:1 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The gods of amil.

    What a ridiculous statement. As I said, we (believers) are priests now as well (Rev 1:5-6, 1 Peter 2:9). Does that mean we walk "around swaying incense containers"? No. So, why would it mean that for those who are in heaven? Please stop being ridiculous if you want to be taken seriously. I...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    No, it isn't. You are not even following the definition for a preterist that you gave earlier. Do verses 15-22 in Matthew 24 make up most of Mathew's account of the Olivet Discourse which includes all of Matthew 24 and 25? No, it does not. You said that preterists believe that all or most of the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    I really didn't want to talk to you anymore, but if you're going to lie like this, then I'm going to call it out. To say that he is "100% in the Preterist Camp" is nothing short of slander. Why do you think it's okay to lie? Do you have no conscience about lying? He believes that the coming of...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    He defined a preterist earlier as being someone who believes all or most of the Olivet Discourse is fulfilled. You and I don't believe that, yet he continues to call us preterists, anyway. I can't deal with that nonsense any longer.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The gods of amil.

    This is meaningless and proves nothing. The fact of the matter is that scripture does not say much at all about the souls of the dead in Christ who are in heaven now. So, it's not surprising that you can't find a reference using that word to apply to them in other scripture. For you to act as if...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Yes, and you believe some things that dispensationalists also believe. So, if my agreeing with a couple things (while also disagreeing with many things) that preterists believe makes me a preterist then you agreeing with things that dispensationalists believe (while also disagreeing with other...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus Does not Come to Destroy all flesh

    LOL. If that passage is not referring to the glorious return of Jesus then no passage does. I can't take you seriously when you can't even recognize that 2 Thess 1:6-10 is about the return of Jesus.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    This sums up what you have to offer to this forum. Ridiculous insults. That's it. You know very well that no Christian here (regardless of their end times beliefs) thinks "ill of God and His redemptive work on the Cross". You know that! Yet, you still said this, anyway. That says it all about you.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    Anyone who doesn't think He will kill all unbelievers when He returns doesn't believe what He Himself taught about what will happen when He returns. Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    Just because I believe that Jesus will destroy all unbelievers when He returns means that I want to see that happen as if I would enjoy it or something? How ridiculous. LOL. You need help. How do you interpret this passage: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The Judgement of Nations: Millennium Proof

    Wow. Are you trying to tell us that you believe that the sheep include non-Christians??!! You think non-Christians will inherit eternal life in the kingdom prepared from the foundation of the world as Jesus said regarding the sheep?