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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    You don't seem to be able to make up your mind. Do you believe those things will be fulfilled when Jesus returns or do you believe they will be fulfilled 1,000+ years later? It can't be both. Those things were to be fulfilled by the end of the 70 weeks. So, when do you believe the 70th week...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    John 5:24-25 relates to Ephesians 2:1-7, not John 5:28-29. You seem to have a hard time giving straightforward answers. Do you believe that John 5:28-29 is referring to the bodily resurrection of the dead or not? It seems that you do not. Is that correct?
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Because there is a difference and it can be easily seen in scripture. Scripture very clearly teaches that it was God's will to send His Son to die for the sins "of the whole world" (1 John 2:2) and nothing could stop that, but it's His desire that all people would be saved, and yet not all...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    It's talking about those who have part in the first resurrection living and reigning with Christ. The Greek word translated as "lived" in verse 4 is "zao" and that is not a word used to refer to the bodily resurrection of the dead. The Greek word "anazao" is used to refer to "the rest of the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Yours is definitely easy to spot. Takes no effort at all to spot it. You are clueless. We don't say that it's only figurative as if it doesn't represent an actual period of time at all. We believe it figuratively represent an actual period of time with a beginning and ending. We see the...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Hey, buddy, it looks like you are accusing Amils of adding words to the book of Revelation. Is that what you're doing? That's a very serious allegation that you should be able to back up. Do you even understand what those passages mean? They are talking about someone purposely adding words to...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    This is yet another misrepresentation of Amillennialism from you. You are completely incapable of refuting Amillennialism in an honest way, so you resort to misrepresenting it instead. Our approach to interpreting Revelation is not to interpret everything as symbolic. That is a lie. Like...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    You are deceived. God desires for all people to be saved, but makes each person responsible to choose. He doesn't force people to repent and believe. You are not differentiating between His will and His desire. His will was to provide the means of salvation to all people and His desire is that...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    You don't think that John 5:28-29 is referring to the bodily resurrection of the dead? Jesus referred specifically to people coming out of their graves, so I don't know how He could have been referring to anything but the bodily resurrection of the dead there.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Why do people on here always try to tell others what they believe. Why don't you let us tell you what we believe instead? We (Amils) do not believe that His reign ends when the thousand years ends. Do you believe that? Apparently, you realize that you can't refute Amillennialism with scripture...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The folly of Preterism

    If you can't back up your beliefs with scripture, then you should just read and learn from those who can. What doe this mean? You seem to have a lot of difficulty with communicating in a way that can be understood. But people are still dying and still sinning, right? Do you think that people...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The folly of Preterism

    Why are you trying to hijack this thread? This thread is about refuting preterism and is not an Amill vs. Premill thread. Do you have any thoughts on what has been said to refute preterism?
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The folly of Preterism

    You are so far off base that it just boggles my mind. The order Paul alluded to was CHRIST FIRST (Christ the firstfruits) and then next in order are those who belong to Him at His second coming. NOWHERE does Paul indicate that each individual gets resurrected in order. He made it VERY CLEAR that...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The folly of Preterism

    Are you saying that you are not a preterist? Do you believe in a future, bodily coming of Jesus Christ? Do you believe in the future mass bodily resurrection of all of the dead in Christ when He returns?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The folly of Preterism

    What do you believe about the future? Do you think things will just go on forever the same way it has throughout history so far? Do you think God will never put an end to death and sin?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The folly of Preterism

    Scripture teaches that we will all be changed and have spiritual bodies AT THE SAME TIME which will be at the last trumpet when Christ returns. How do you reconcile your view that we each are changed and have spiritual bodies upon death with what Paul wrote here: 1 Corinthians 15:51 Listen, I...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The folly of Preterism

    Please don't share your opinions here if you have no interest in backing them up. Thanks.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    That's a stretch. It seems that you are going out of your way to come up with a way to reconcile passages like John 5:28-29 with your beliefs.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    Yes, it is talking about literal destruction, but where are you getting the idea that it has anything to do with a peace treaty with the anti-christ and anything to do with taking Israel by surprise? Are you even reading all of 1 Thess 5? It seems that you are reading a lot into it without...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    Why would you ask me this? Seriously. Are you trying to offend me? Did you actually think I might disagree with this? Give me a break. Of course. Of course. Of course. I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying there is a prophecy that predicts both His first and second coming within...