Timtofly
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Because the final harvest starts at the Second Coming. Satan's 42 months is after the final harvest. The final harvest is from those alive, not those dead for thousands of years.LOL. Obviously, it would be after. Would be pretty hard for them to ask the question when they are dead, right? LOL.
But, it will be very shortly after. Why would it say "the great day of his wrath is come" if His wrath was not at hand and about to come down at that point?
Jesus and the angels are on the earth during the final harvest.
"The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;"
The field is not sheol nor the grave. Those people hiding out are the final harvest. Those sheep hiding out are of Israel and will be judged, and some will be goats. The wheat are hiding out and among that group waiting for the wrath to fall on them. This harvest and judgment is after Jesus sets up His glorious throne in Jerusalem. The same throne Satan sits on for 42 months.
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats."
This does not say years prior to the Son of man coming. Satan does not build and sit on this glorious throne prior to the Second Coming. All the judgment and harvest happens after the Second Coming, not leading up to the Second Coming.
It is Amil and post trib people who have the easy escapism ideology. They claim it is instantly all over at the Second Coming. The wrath and judgment comes at the Second Coming. That is just the beginning. The destruction is sudden and instant and catches people off guard. But billions will be left in the rubble facing the wrath of God.
According to John in Revelation 6, the only sign is Death and sheol bringing war, famine, plague and death to 25% of the world. A battle against Israel, that Jesus stops at the Second Coming.
"Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south."
Sound familiar?
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."
You all claim these are not the same Day of the Lord. But then deny there have been 7 Days of the Lord since Genesis 1:1.
It is God who calls all these nations to battle, not Satan, and not even Satan allowed by God. No one will even know why they are fighting because it is a "thief in the night" battle, that no one sees coming.
You all need to get out of the ideology that nothing has changed since creation and it will all end at the Second Coming. There was a new heaven and earth after the Flood. There will be a new heaven and earth after God's wrath is poured out. Still the same creation that Jesus has and will rule over until He hands it back to God perfect and subdued. Jesus will not hand over a burnt offering.
Jesus delivered the OT redeemed as the firstfruits at His resurrection.
Jesus will deliver the entire church glorified at the Second Coming.
Jesus will deliver all of creation to God subdued and complete without death at the end of the last Day of the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:20-28
The fire in Revelation 20:9 only consumes those who followed Satan, not the entire earth. It is not heaven being dissolved by fire. It is representative of the last of death being defeated that Satan keeps trying to introduce into creation. Those last deceived humans is the end of death. Then Jesus hands back creation, and heaven and earth can no longer be found.