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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You were in that previous post. Spent all that time talking about what's not symbolic. Whatever. Who cares what you want to call it when text is not meant to be taken literally? Use whatever word you want for that. Just call it non-literal if you don't like the word "symbolic". It doesn't...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Interesting! You don't like it when you don't receive a straightforward answer? Now you know what it's like to be us when we ask you questions! LOL. I said I've already told you more than once. If you weren't paying attention when I've told you before, what will make you remember what I say...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Paul never claimed Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Haha. It's pretty clear, isn't it? Sad.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Calculating the Rapture? 7 Factors to Consider

    Where do I start? I guess at the beginning of the NT. Matthew 13:36-43, Matthew 13:47-50, Matthew 25:31-46, John 5:28-29, John 6:40/John 12:48, Acts 17:31, 1 Thess 4:14-5:9, 1 Cor 15:22-24, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 2 Thess 1:7-10 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 are only some of the passages that you need to change...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    the real danger of Amillism

    But, does your understanding of the fulfillment of those promises match up with what Paul writes in Galatians 3:16-29? I don't believe so. Not even close really. I can't figure out why you wouldn't want to use NT scripture to aid your understanding of OT scripture.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    the real danger of Amillism

    I had already told you that more than once before. I find that most people here either do not read what others are saying carefully, or they quickly forget what others have said. I'm not sure why that is. Whoa, stop there. Christian kingdoms (plural)? No, I don't believe that. There is one...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    the real danger of Amillism

    Yes, it is. Some pre-tribs resort to trying to claim that the departure (falling away, rebellion) that Paul references in 2 Thess 2 is talking about the departure of the church instead of a departure from the faith, but that obviously can't be taken seriously. A falling away from the faith fits...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I've already explained it to you more than once. You don't pay any attention to what anyone tells you because all you can do is just repeat yourself over and over without thinking about what anyone else says and responding to it directly. You've been shown that the beast "was, and is not" as of...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I do not despise the truth. I embrace it. But, you often do not share the truth. You are often mistaken in your beliefs. It is a wonder that you are an Amil. Other than having the timing of the thousand years of Revelation 20 correct, you seem to be wrong about almost everything else. I don't...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where is this taught in scripture? Why do you never back up your claims with scripture? Is it just because you know you can't? Do you think your words alone mean anything apart from accompanying scriptural support?
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Which verse? And it crashed what soundly down exactly? I had mentioned premillennialism and pre-trib in my post.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    25 questions that prove that ancient Chiliasm was a different animal to modern Premil

    There seems to be no other reason that he would deny that Jesus is now King over all of heaven and earth except for his denial of the Deity of Christ. He talked a little earlier about standing before the throne of judgment one day. Imagine standing before Jesus and trying to explain why you...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    25 questions that prove that ancient Chiliasm was a different animal to modern Premil

    You should only say that you tried. If you say yes, you did, then that would be a lie because you are failing miserably at understanding and promoting the prophetic word properly. Tell that to Jesus Himself and to Paul and John as well. You don't have scripture on your side here. Matthew 28:18...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    25 questions that prove that ancient Chiliasm was a different animal to modern Premil

    No, he is correct about that. You are severely lacking in discernment regarding this. For one thing, there are many different English Bible translations and they all translate that verse differently. What you need to keep in mind is that the previous verse says the people of the prince would...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    25 questions that prove that ancient Chiliasm was a different animal to modern Premil

    You misunderstood me. I know you believe that and I lean towards believing that myself. But, what he seemed to be saying (maybe not?) is that you believed that Jesus brought on or carried out the abomination or something along those lines, which is not the case. It was the Roman armies who...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are getting bogged down in semantics here. Do you believe the word "thousand" is used literally in Psalm 50:10 or not? Is it talking about God owning the cattle on literally a thousand hills and not the rest of the hills or not? If not, then why can't the word "thousand" be used similarly in...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Okay. In past discussions you seemed to be firmly premillennial (and pre-trib? not sure). In a sense that is completely likely because it actually happened. But, normally, that is extremely unlikely. Did I say that prophetic passages must all only be symbolic or all only literal? No, I...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    He is making it very clear that he doesn't believe Jesus is God. Why are Amils the only ones calling him out on it? That's disappointing. I never said otherwise. I was a Premil once. But, once I studied things closer, I became quite convinced that Amillennialism is true. As you can tell. And...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    25 questions that prove that ancient Chiliasm was a different animal to modern Premil

    That's a good plan. I will defer to that plan from here on as well.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How can you not know? You haven't seen any of the posts where we have rebuked CadyandZoe for his denial of the deity of Christ? I can't imagine that you've missed all of the posts regarding this particular issue. I will never apologize for being passionate about the truth. And I don't even drink...