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He already told you that he's not interested in going to other links while he is here. I share that perspective. Yet, you gave that link, anyway. Why? We're here to talk to people like you. If we wanted to read articles on websites, we would not be here and would be browsing those websites...

What you're saying is not true. We always address any points that are made. Premils typically do not. Yes, we will likely disagree with any points that you make, but we will not just ignore them and will actually address them. And we don't claim that others can't think for themselves, either.

May the Lord open your eyes to the truth of who Jesus really is.

It's not a literal lake of fire. It's symbolic. Notice what it says in this verse: Revelation 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. How can death and Hades be literally thrown into the lake of fire? That's not possible. You're...

Then you are basically denying that He is God. Your beliefs are heretical just as we have been saying. He was born as a human being, yes, but He existed before that. Scripture says that He created all things. He has always existed as God, but around 2,000 years ago He came to the earth as a...

That's interesting. Thanks for sharing it.

Yeah. Either way, we know it's not referring to some future Antichrist confirming some 7 year peace treaty or any nonsense like that.

Yes, it includes Abraham's spiritual descendants who have faith like him and belong to Christ, as Paul indicated. Galatians 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

That's not at all what he was saying. Can you just let the adults discuss this and keep your childish comments to yourself? Paul said that those who were "dead in trespasses and sins" were made alive (spiritually). Did you just skip that part?

Marty, let's stick to discussing Revelation 20:4 only in your thread. This thread was created to divert attention away from the truth you were sharing in your thread. It doesn't deserve our attention.

Do you think just quoting scripture alone somehow proves something that you believe? Can you please tell me why you posted this passage and what you think it means?

You have proven NOTHING except that you have strong opinions (as most of us here do). So, congratulations on that. If he has anything? LOL! I'm sure you have so many beliefs that he believes are false that it will be difficult to even know where to start.

Let's cue the Jeopardy theme song while we wait for the answer. :sleeping:

This brings up an interesting point. Peter indicates there that Paul wrote about the same kind of things that Peter wrote about in 2 Peter 3. Yet, I see some Premils who deny that the destruction accompanying the day of the Lord described in 1 Thess 5:2-3 is the same as the destruction...

Great analogy. Daniel 9:24 says 70 weeks were given to accomplish the six things listed in that verse. And we all know that the beginning point of the 70 weeks was the decree to rebuild Jerusalem that was made 483 years before Jesus was revealed as the Messiah. So, with that in mind, based on...

Amen, Jeff. Exactly. When else will He come "to be glorified in His saints...and to be marveled at among all who believed" except on the day we are all changed and are caught up to Him "in the air"? Any objective person will acknowledge that 2 Thess 1:10 is referring to the day when "the...

Yep. Pretribs cobble together many unrelated passages and come up with a convoluted doctrine out of it that I find to be completely incoherent. They have ZERO explicit scripture that they can use to support their doctrine. It is FULL of speculations and assumptions.

He has no issue at all with the Word of God. He has a lot of issues with your interpretations of the Word of God. Why would you ask a question like this when he does believe that the Messiah is cut off after the 69th week? What is doesn't say specifically is how long after the 69th week He would...

Tell that to Paul. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will...

Mystery Babylon is described as a harlot and as "she" and "her", so I guess he must believe that Mystery Babylon is a literal woman then? If he used his flawed logic consistently, that is what he would have to believe.