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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Paul did not say that all Israel would be saved when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. He said that all Israel would be saved while the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Read this passage carefully: Romans 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    That passage is quoted in Hebrews 8:8-13 in direct relation to the fulfillment of the long ago established new covenant which replaced the old covenant and its animal sacrifices and such. Is the new covenant only for Jews? The new covenant is all about Christ's shed blood providing salvation and...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    So, there are moderators here? I didn't think this forum had any moderation. Are you aware that this forum has constant "harassing, flaming and goading" in every thread? But, you're singling me out for this one post? Why? I don't see you saying anything in response to the MANY other posts...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    While you are in a thread like this one, look in the upper right of your screen after scrolling to the top. There is a search feature there. Click in the field where it says "Search..." and then a window like this will pop up: You can type in any keywords you want there and then you can also...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Let's make something very clear here. People like WPM, jeffweeder and myself are not going to consider something that clearly only came from your imagination rather than from scripture. You gave a theory as to why there would be animal sacrifices in the future and didn't offer any scripture in...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    We are? Where? No one is saying that literally all of Revelation is symbols, but it certainly contains a lot of symbolism. That is undeniable. Hmmm. Really? Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No one is claiming that. Why are you wasting your time arguing with a straw man? There is something seriously wrong with you. You talk complete, utter nonsense. Please seek help.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The things from which we will escape are the things that will occur on the day Christ returns. Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But, the old covenant sacrifices did have a purpose. They foreshadowed Christ's sacrifice, as Hebrews 10 indicates. So, they already served their purpose. What purpose would future animal sacrifices serve and what evidence do you have to support your answer? Which is? If you can't answer this...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your accusations mean nothing when you can't back them up. Which you most certainly are incapable of doing. So, these are empty words coming from you. The next coherent argument you make defending your doctrine will be the first one.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What is wrong with you? Did you read the whole discussion to see the context of his post? He was not mocking God's word, he was mocking the way Premils interpret that passage.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You said this in response to a post that included these 2 passages: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What in the world is this? It's not possible for anyone but Jesus Christ to perfectly "obey all of God's commandments, ordinances, and statutes". If someone was able to do that then what would they need Jesus for? Are you claiming a time period is coming when people won't need Jesus anymore...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Say it some other way than "unless you think God lies" then. Why say it that way when you know I would never think that He lies? I know you strongly THINK that God promised certain things, but that's just your opinion. To disagree with you is not a case of thinking that God lied. I "hear" what...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, but only one time/hour is referenced. So, there is no basis whatsoever for separating the resurrections by a long period of time. Jesus said a singular time/hour is coming when all of the dead would be resurrected. John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do you just forget everything you ever say? Why do I have to search for it? You can't repeat what you said? You don't need to go into great detail or anything. I don't want to spend a bunch of time searching for your posts. It can be done and there is a search feature on here, but I don't know...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How do you reconcile your belief in future animal sacrifices with this: Hebrews 10:8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yet, despite being asked about Ezekiel 40-48 several times, you wouldn't answer the question. Is your view not based at all on Ezekiel 40-48? I believe it likely is, but if it's not then we could just let that go. You said previously that the future animal sacrifices that you believe will be...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Can you tell me where you answered the question of whether or not you believe that Ezekiel 40-48 relates to a future Millennium with the newly built temple and animal sacrifices that you believe in? Otherwise, you can just answer it again here with a simple yes or no.