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I have no idea of what you're saying here. Are you denying that Revelation 12 refers to the birth and ascension of Christ, which obviously did not occur after the seventh trumpet? My point had to do with the fact that what is described in Revelation 12 does not follow what is described at the...

I said I think that. I didn't say I know it. But, it's highly likely because you have some beliefs that are way out there. Such as believing that the stars are angels, for instance. Are you aware of anyone else in the world who believes that? But, you didn't make it clear that is what you were...

Wow! Are you even trying? Of course I'm not saying that Pentecost never happened and you know that. Was the Holy Spirit coming to dwell in people something physical? No, that was spiritual. But, it did literally happen. Can you see how something can be both spiritual and literal at the same...

Using your rules of grammar and applying them to another passage, it would be Jesus "whose coming is after the working of Satan" since He was the most recent person to be referenced before that in this passage: 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall...

Have you ever considered that making an end of sins is not referring to the literal end of sin, but rather is referring to Jesus taking away the sins of the world by way of His sacrifice? John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh...

They think Isaiah started talking about the new heavens and new earth in verse 17 and then inexplicably changed the subject in the very next verse. I guess they think he had ADHD or something. Imagine if someone tried to claim that Revelation 21:1 is about the new heavens and new earth but then...

How convenient of you to do that. Why don't you do that with Revelation 11 and 12 as well? The inconsistency in your interpretive approach is obvious and reveals your extreme doctrinal bias.

So, you don't accept what Jesus Himself said then? Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Does Jesus have all power in heaven and earth or not? He said that was given to Him. Shouldn't we believe Him? Look at this: John...

Where does it indicate that they would learn war no more until some later time instead of never learning war anymore?

Please read that verse more carefully. Notice it talks about "the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ". So, "our Lord" here is referring to God the Father. Since His resurrection, Jesus was given all authority in heaven and earth (Matthew 28:18) and has been reigning. John 5:22 says "For...

How do you explain verse 20 in light of verse 19? Isaiah 65:19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his...

Exactly. He is fighting an uphill battle against clear, straightforward scripture. They like to criticize us Amils for supposedly spiritualizing everything, but they balk at it when we take scriptures like Matthew 28:18 literally and straightforwardly. It's ridiculous.

He did. What are you reading? Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. I didn't. That's your false assumption. Imagine doing the same thing with Revelation 11 and 12. Your approach is faulty, as I already...

Exactly. It only takes a "little season" of time for a number of them "as the sand of the sea" to change their minds from what they had believed for the past 1000 years and oppose Christ and His people. It makes the whole thing (establishing an earthly kingdom) seem completely pointless and a...

Not surprisingly, he just completely ignores it when we point out the folly in his logic by showing how it would make complete nonsense out of Revelation 11 and 12. At least we know unbiased observers can see how faulty his interpretive approach is.

I would never compare Premils to non-Christians like Muslims or Mormons. It doesn't get any more offensive than that. If you can't understand that then you have even less discernment than I thought.

Thanks, bro, I appreciate it. I'd like to know how exactly a spirit being like Satan could be literally bound with a chain, anyway. No Premil has ever been able to explain that.

He rules from the right hand of the Father in heaven, as scripture clearly teaches. Have you never read this: Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him...

Did you mean to say that all you're doing is twisting them? Because that's what you do all the time.

Do you think anyone is saying otherwise? NO! So, why are you acting as if anyone is saying otherwise? You're wasting a lot of time by doing that. Those are called straw man arguments because you're making arguments against things that no one even believes.