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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But, two events separated by 1000+ years? No, I don't think it can be used in that way. I believe that is quite farfetched.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Well, I'm glad you recognize that, at least. Obviously, we don't see the same parallels, though.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I quoted a passage that talks about sharply rebuking believers who are out of line. Should we ignore passages like that? Sometimes the way to love your enemies is to rebuke them for their own good. Someone needs to let that guy know his judgmental attitude towards other believers is wrong. An...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, no, no. I wasn't asking for a date and time. I meant when does she think the end of the age will occur in relation to His second coming. If you read my entire post, it should be clear that is what I meant.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, someone did that. Davy told Paul that he was not a true Christian merely because Paul didn't agree with Davy's Premil view. That is completely out of line.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Because that helps to confirm that his interpretation of that passage is correct. It's not the only passage that speaks of Christ reigning, or of His people reigning with him as priests of Him and His Father, or of Satan's binding, or of the resurrection of the dead, or of the judgment. So, why...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And when exactly do you think that will happen? When do you believe the end of the age will come? Honestly, this is getting to be a little frustrating. I asked you if "you believe that Jesus will return at the end of the age (Matt 24:3)?" and, for some reason, you didn't answer it. Should I...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, does this response mean that you don't have any other scripture you can reference which supports your interpretation of Revelation 20:4-5? That is what he was asking for. If you don't, then please just say so.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I guess we're playing scripture tag now. Titus 1:12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.” 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Regardless of exactly when He was glorified, is it referring to a long period of time for Him to be glorified as you think "the hour" in John 5:28-29 does? No. So, I don't see that you're proving anything here. Matthew 26:44 So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Okay, fine. Agree to disagree then. But, do you have any thoughts about my question about there being parallels in the book of Revelation rather than it all (or mostly all) being chronological from beginning to end? Have you ever considered this?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please back up your opinions with scripture. Thanks.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Love and respect are not the same thing. I can love someone without respecting them. Anyway, I'm more than willing to have a respectful discussion with you. I just wish you could be more direct with your comments, so I don't have to guess at what you're saying.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I didn't say you did. I was saying that I don't know how other Premils could believe otherwise. Where is the scripture, besides your understanding of Revelation 20, that you can reference that supports this claim? How does your view line up with what Jesus taught here: John 5:28 “Do not be...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I believe I have been respecting you. I don't believe Davy deserves any respect, though. Also, how could you not be understanding that I may get a bit frustrated at you often not giving straightforward answers? I don't see how just posting scripture passages without any commentary is helpful...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, but in this case I see no reason why they are not talking about the same event. I asked this before, but I don't think you answered it. And maybe you didn't even see it, which is fine. But, have you ever considered that the book of Revelation contains several parallel passages in it rather...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But, Jesus indicated that Matthew 13:36-43 will happen "at the end of the age". Don't you believe that Jesus will return at the end of the age (Matt 24:3)?
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You're refusing to just answer my questions and seem to want to give riddles and play games instead. I've been very patient with you, but it's getting old. Also, how many "denigrating and condescending remarks" have I made to you personally? Yes, I have done that with Davy since that seems to...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I look at the second coming of Christ as being one event during which several things occur. So, in that sense I see one resurrection event, which is the "hour" Jesus said is coming during which all of the dead will be resurrected. But, yes, I do believe there will be a very short amount of time...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And how exactly do you think the verses you quoted from Matthew 25 answer that question? Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you?