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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not exactly, though I believe both refer to the same future second coming of Christ. What I mean is what I already said before, which was that I believe the resurrection of the dead in Christ will happen immediately upon His arrival "in the air" (that's what Matthew 24:29-31 is referring to) at...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You asked the question. If you can't even tell me why you asked it, then what is the point of us even discussing these things? Do you not have any thoughts on the rest of what I said in that post?
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What is the point you were intending to make by bringing up these verses?
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Honestly, it seems kind of convenient that you would not relate two passages together that both speak of the treading of the winepress of God's wrath. I don't believe it makes any sense to think that the winepress of God's wrath will come down more than once on the earth in the future. Can...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    When you say "destroyed" you mean cast into the lake of fire, right? If Premill was true, then obviously any believers who died during the thousand years would need to be resurrected after the thousand years, so I'm not sure why any Premill would believe otherwise.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Because interpreting it the way you do contradicts other scripture. Why would I want to interpret that passage in such a way that contradicts my interpretation of many other passages? I don't assume any given verse or passage is literal or symbolic before studying it. I look at the context and I...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, it seems that you're saying that you believe Revelation 14:14-16 is referring to the first resurrection and Revelation 14:18-20 is referring to the same event as Revelation 20:11-15? Why wouldn't you relate this: Revelation 14:18 Still another angel, who had charge of the fire, came from...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Notice how a very similar scenario is described at the end of Revelation 19 and 20. So, will history basically repeat itself or are those speaking of the same event? Have you ever considered that there are multiple parallel sections in the book of Revelation rather than it being all (or mostly)...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I didn't realize you were pre-trib, so that's why I was confused about what you believe regarding who populates the earth during the thousand years. I thought you were Post-trib. Pre-tribs would typically say that they believe the mortals who survive the second coming of Christ are the...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The plain reading? LOL. So, do you disagree with Paul that scripture must be spiritually discerned, as he wrote about in 1 Corinthians 2:9-16? It's just all "plain reading"? In the highly symbolic book of Revelation? No. Do you agree with the plain reading of this passage: John 5:28 “Do...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am just as confused as you are. I still can't tell who exactly she thinks would be the mortals who would populate the earth at Christ's return.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Here is what you said in post #311 So, you're saying the answer to the following questions can be found in that post: Are there any mortals in your future millennium? If yes, who are they? Are they saved or unsaved? The last thing you said was "I think these will rule and reign with Christ and...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What scripture can you reference that would support your interpretation of this passage? Do you believe in a pre-trib rapture or something like that? How would you describe your current beliefs? Obviously, you are a premillennialist, but I'm curious if you would describe yourself as being a...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But, this interpretation contradicts a lot of other scripture passages which teach that Christ reigns now, all of the dead will be resurrected around the same time, all people will be judged at the same time and that all unbelievers will be killed on the day Christ returns. Is that of no concern...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why would it not line up with my current understanding of it when I'm the one giving my interpretation of those passages? Am I giving an interpretation of those passages that doesn't line up with my current understanding of those passages? Of course not. So, I have no idea of what you're...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is this your way of saying you are completely fine with the way that Davy talks to us? I can never tell for sure what it is you're trying to say.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please back up your claims with scripture. Our opinions mean nothing without scriptural support. Thanks.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please read it (post #331) because your current understanding of the last days does not line up with what scripture teaches.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    When did Peter indicate that the last days began in Acts 2:16-21? When did he indicate that the last days will end in 2 Peter 3:3-4?
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, who do you think are the mortals who would populate the earth during the thousand years then? Would they be saved or unsaved?