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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I recognize that as Isaiah 2:4, but you should specify which book and chapter you are quoting from in case someone doesn't know. Please read my post #331 where I show what time period the last days refers to, according to scripture. It does not refer to a time period after Christ returns.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    When are the last days? Some time after Christ returns? Not according to scripture. Acts 2:16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, who exactly do you think will survive the wrath of God that will come down when Christ returns? Paul indicated that Jesus will destroy those who don't know God and don't obey the gospel of Jesus. Believers will be changed to have immortal bodies at that time, so what mortals does that leave...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do you think that scripture doesn't say anything about the purpose of that significant time period?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    2 Thessalonians 1:6 God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7 and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8 He will punish those who do not know God and...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What do you think would be the purpose of a time of "greatly improved living for a thousand years" after the return of Christ? Keep in mind what happens after the thousand years as recorded in Revelation 20:7-9 when answering the question.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, you think that Isaiah referenced the new heavens and new earth in Isaiah 65:17 only to completely change the subject in the very next verse? Imagine if I tried to tell you that Revelation 21:1 is about the new heavens and new earth, but then John started talking about a different time period...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Says the guy who put me on ignore because you couldn't handle someone standing up to your bully behavior.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You were given plenty of evidence to show that the word "thousand" is used figuratively several times in scripture and this is the only response you could come up with? LOL.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, was Peter mistaken in 2 Peter 3:13 when he said the new heavens and new earth will be a place where righteousness dwells? It seems clear that he was saying only righteousness dwells there, otherwise what was the point of saying that? Also, was John mistaken when he said there will be no...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    As usual, you missed the point. It's only Amils being criticized for our comments while nothing is said about a Premil who is making rude remarks in all of his posts and even saying people are denying Christ.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Isn't that true of you as well? Are you actually open to changing your view? I doubt it.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Who said that? No one. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. In 2 Peter 3:10-13 it indicates that He will renew the earth by fire, resulting in the new earth. No one said He will just leave the earth in ruins and go back to heaven. What a ridiculous notion.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    You obviously are not understanding the point I was making. I was addressing that person's view. If you have a different view then you can just ignore what I was saying since it didn't apply to your particular view. Most Premills would say that sin occurs during the Millennium and a vast...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Which OT scripture are you referring to? You understand that things will be very different for believers and unbelievers on that day, right? Obviously, we look forward to the day Christ returns while unbelievers do not. So, I'm confused as to what you are talking about here. Look at this...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I assume you're talking to me and I assume you're talking about 2 Peter 3:10? 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. So, it seems...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please read my post #46 again. I never gave "very plausible proof that one day doesn't always have to mean one literal day". I only indicated that the word "thousand" doesn't have to be taken literally. My example 1 and example 4 support each other and example 4 had nothing to do with the...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't know what to tell you. I can understand the points made in the original posts, but maybe his particular writing style is just hard for you to follow. I'm sure he'd be more than willing to clarify any of the points that you'd like clarification on if you want him to.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    You didn't really address my question here, so I'm going to try again. Are you a premillennialist or not? If so, how do you reconcile your understanding of the making an end of sins and the fulfillment of bringing in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24) with your understanding of the timing...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    So, is it your view that God has never been ruling and reigning except for a short time before Adam and Eve sinned? Satan has been playing havoc with humanity to some extent almost since the beginning of time. I don't believe that Satan's behavior and the behavior of those he is influencing...