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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    This is complete nonsense. If you can't even discern that Revelation 19 depicts the second coming, then I'm not sure what you can discern.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Day of The Lord, Wrong Timing Applied

    It says "the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.” So, it first mentions the armies of "kings, generals, and the mighty, etc." and then expands out to "all people, free and slave, great and small". The...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    What are you saying, that you disagree that there will be a mass falling away before Christ's return? If so, then tell me how you interpret 2 Thess 2:1-3.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Normal interpretation of symbolism? What is that? I'll tell you what it's not. Symbols are not required to resemble what they symbolize in reality as you seem to think is the case. If that was true then that would mean Satan looks something like a dragon with seven heads and ten horns. Of...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Why didn't you answer my questions? How exactly do you think someone can "keep the commandments of God"? Are you suggesting that you never break the commandments of God?
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Speaking of "Fail". You fail to understand that not every symbol in the book is explained and it does not tell us that every symbol is a symbol. You believe otherwise because you want to be spoon fed everything from scripture instead of having to use any spiritual discernment. That's a lie. I...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    How exactly do you think someone can "keep the commandments of God"? Are you suggesting that you never break the commandments of God? The mark of the beast is the spiritual opposite of the seal of God. This is a salvation issue. If you have the mark of the beast then you're not saved. Since...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Nope, the answer isn't there. I see no description of millions disappearing and the consequences of that event described there. Anywhere else?
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I can't seem to find that book in my Bible. How did I end up with a Bible that doesn't have all the books in it?
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes, we need to be on the lookout for that since that is what is described.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Can you tell me where I can find the scripture that describes the sudden disappearance of millions of people throughout the world along with all the chaos and destruction that would result from such an event?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I wasn't asking as if I didn't know the answer. I was making a point. I asked the question because you conclude that Jesus will literally use a sword to kill people "because that is what the Bible describes in Revelation 19". So, my point is that the Bible also describes a woman sitting on...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    So what? Regardless of whether we can recognize it or not, Paul said it would happen first before Christ comes and we're gathered to Him. And the man of sin is revealed before then as well. But, you deny that anything needs to happen beforehand. So what? Why does this matter? This is...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    They will be physically killed. The reason it matters whether the sword is literal or symbolic is because some premils deny that 2 Peter 3:10-12 is referring to the day Christ returns because they say the destruction described in Revelation 19 isn't caused by fire. But, the literal method...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The bottom line here is that Paul taught that a mass falling away from the faith would occur and the man of sin would be revealed BEFORE the day Christ returns and we're gathered to Him. And you're not accepting that.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Where is this taught in scripture? Why do you think they would suffer His Wrath? Of course they would not. Do you think He is incapable of protecting His people on the earth while sending down wrath? It's only His final global wrath which will occur on the day Christ returns (2 Peter 3:10-13, 1...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    But, they would have thought they had missed it if His coming and our being gathered to Him already occurred. That's the point. I disagree. I don't think you are the Greek grammar expert that you think you are. So, tell me what exactly do you think would have troubled them if the day of Christ...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    You completely missed the point. He was not talking about apostasy in general, he was talking about mass apostasy. Did you read the passage I showed you? 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes. It is the day Christ returns and we're caught up to Him, as Paul mentioned in 2 Thess 2:1. He was saying that they shouldn't believe anyone who says that day had already come which would mean they had missed being gathered to Christ at His coming. I don't know what you're talking about. The...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Paul was talking about something that had to occur before "our being gathered to Him". He obviously wouldn't say that our departing and being gathered to Him had to take place first before our departing and being gathered to Him. So, there is no basis whatsoever for seeing the "falling away" as...