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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Yes, but they also asked Him about the timing of the destruction of the temple buildings which were standing at that time. I did not claim that His coming and the end of the age has happened yet. You made false accusations against me in another thread and now you're doing it again. You seem to...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    How does your interpretation of Zechariah 14 match up with what is described in 1 Thess 4:14-5:6 and 2 Peter 3:10-12? Where does Zechariah 14 indicate that the heavens and earth are burned up at Christ's return on the day of the Lord? Do you think animal sacrifices will be reinstated when...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    So why are they removed from the Lord's kingdom?

    Did you learn anything about reading comprehension at any point in school? Because your reading comprehension is apparently very poor. Nowhere did he nor I ever indicate that we think the third woe occurs before the second woe. Resorting to false accusations does nothing to help your case.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    So why are they removed from the Lord's kingdom?

    No, I'm not. That is not at all what I'm claiming. Read what I said again and read it carefully this time. Did you even read what I said? I'm saying that Revelation 11:14 picks up where Revelation 9:13-21, which describes the second woe, left off. And then Revelation 11:15-19 describes the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    So why are they removed from the Lord's kingdom?

    I agree. When people interpret the entire book (or most of the book) chronologically it leads to all kinds of nonsensical conclusions. The time of the final wrath of God and judgment of the dead is said to have come at the seventh trumpet, so how can everything written after Revelation 11...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    So why are they removed from the Lord's kingdom?

    If the two witnesses are two human beings then in what sense are they two olive trees and two candlesticks/lampstands? Earlier in the book candlesticks symbolically represent churches, so why would they then represent human beings in Revelation 11? What do olive trees represent in Romans 11...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    So why are they removed from the Lord's kingdom?

    Revelation 11:1-13 is a parenthetical section in Revelation. It's not correct to interpret Revelation 11:14-18 as if what is described there chronologically follows what is described in Revelation 11:1-13. No, Revelation 11:14 picks up where Revelation 9:21 left off. The second woe is the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    Are you? Yes, it does. You seemed to have a problem with me talking about someone formerly being a Christian but not being a Christian anymore. So, what is your problem with that? You're the one that's coming across as if someone can be a Christian without even being saved and belonging to...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    Good, because interpreting scripture should not be like rocket science. It's intended for all of us to understand it, not just a select few. Ah, so you're a Calvinist? That explains a lot in terms of your arrogance and holier than thou attitude. The bottom line here is that you are...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    So, you think He told them that the temple buildings would be destroyed but had no interest in giving them any details about it even after they asked about it? Really? That's complete nonsense. It is true and you've made that clear repeatedly, but just keep denying it if you want. In one case...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    You're missing the context of what scripture indicates would make it desolate. It's not talking about it being made completely uninhabited by anyone. It was made desolate in terms of the Jews no longer being there (they were all either killed or they fled) and it was desolate in terms of the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    I didn't say that, though. I believe Jesus talked about two different events in the Olivet Discourse. One relating to things that would occur locally in and around Jerusalem and one global event that is yet future which is the return of Christ at the end of the age. Why not? The city was...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    When the walls come down and the ceiling caves in I would say you can no longer call it a building. Why do you ask? Do you think a building has to completely disintegrate and be 100% annihilated in order to no longer be a building? In that case, for example, you could conclude that the twin...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    The sword is only symbolic and not literal. The literal method of destruction will be fire. This is very simple, but doctrinal bias has clouded your understanding. Maybe you are just completely lacking in spiritual discernment and can't tell the difference between what is figurative and what...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    A spiritual body, yes. Just read 1 Corinthians 15:35-54. Paul said it will happen in the future at the last trumpet. Our bodies will all be changed at the last trumpet and will put on immortality at that time.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    LOL. So, you're saying that any translation that doesn't agree with your interpretation of the verse should be ignored. Wrong. While, there are plural kingdoms in the world, it's talking about the entire world itself belonging to the Father and His Son as one collective kingdom. Your...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Other translations such as the NIV and NASB say "the kingdom of this world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ". Singular kingdom. I believe that is a better translation because it's talking in terms of this entire evil world no longer belonging to "the god of this world"...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    I think what you're saying is viable, also. What I don't find to be viable is that His prophecy regarding the destruction of the temple buildings is not yet fulfilled. We are obviously in agreement about that. It makes no sense whatsoever to think that He was talking about the temple buildings...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    What was hard to understand about what I said? A person who is saved is a Christian and a person who is unsaved is not a Christian. Is this rocket science?
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    There's no basis for thinking He has or will ever have more than one kingdom. That's nonsense. When He returns at the end of the age He will deliver His kingdom to the Father as indicated in Matthew 13:36-43 and as Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15:22-24. He will have delivered the kingdom to...