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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    Of course they are. What are you basing that on? Have you never read this passage: 1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

    It is your belief which is nonsense, not the question. When you read 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:6 and 2 Peter 3:3-13, what is described as occurring on the day of the Lord is the catching up of believers to Christ "in the air" and the "sudden destruction" of believers by fire. With that in mind...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Great points that I'm sure he will just ignore. Agree.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    LOL. I'm going by the buildings that the disciples were actually marveling at which I'm sure were the same buildings that they had just been inside of prior to that. They were not marveling at any outer walls. LOL. The buildings that they were inside of are the buildings they were marveling at...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The soon coming rapture?

    Where are you getting that from? A Christian is someone who believes in Christ and belongs to Him. Anyone can claim to be a Christian but that doesn't make them one.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The soon coming rapture?

    How does this prove a pre-trib rapture exactly? If you want to have a discussion with me, then you need to be specific and not vague like this. I don't want to spend a lot of time guessing as to what you're trying to say. Because each passage refers to the second coming of Christ and the...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The soon coming rapture?

    Are you saying you think I'm not in Christ? I am in Christ as all Christians are. Do you believe that having the correct end times doctrine is a requirement for being a Christian?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    How can the 7 bowls all follow the 7th trumpet when Christ will have returned at the 7th and last trumpet (1 Cor 15:50-54) and the time for the dead to be resurrected and judged will have arrived at that point (Revelation 11:18)? That makes no sense. You're not recognizing that there are...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    They can't. So, he's clearly being dishonest with that belief since keeping his precious doctrine afloat is more important than humbling himself and accepting the truth, which is that only believers will be changed at the last trumpet to have the incorruptible, immortal bodies that Paul...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    How can they do that if they are completely unconscious as you claim? They don't receive immortal BODIES until then, but they are already immortal as their eternal destiny is already sealed. How can they ask God about when their blood will be avenged if they know nothing? Is Revelation 6:9-11...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Your lack of willingness to address what the text actually says is unbelievable. Let me show you once again. Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    You are the one who is acting as if Satan's binding has something to do with him being bound from persecuting believers. If that's not what you were intending, then maybe you need to take a class on how to communicate more clearly.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly or not. Do you not believe in a future judgment day which will occur when Christ returns with His angels (Matthew 25:31-46) and/or that occurs after the thousand years and Satan's little season? In terms of John 12:31-33, I understand that Satan is...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    What is this nonsense? Does the thief on the cross not belong to Christ? Of course He does. All who belong to Christ are in the church/body of Christ. Why are you trying to separate what the blood of Christ brought together as one body?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    I never said it was. Then what do you make of what Jesus said here: John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The soon coming rapture?

    No, I'm not quick to be offended. Remember, you don't know me. Stop acting like you do. It was intended as an insult, and you know it. Stop being dishonest. I don't have any pre-conceived notions. I'm not some new Christian who has never studied these things before. I've been studying...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    Where do you think the souls of the martyrs depicted in the following passage are located? Revelation 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Change On The Last Trump

    Amil is partly based on that. But someone could believe that or some It's also based on the belief that all unbelievers will be killed at the return of Christ (Matt 24:35-39, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Peter 3:10-12, Rev 19:17-18, Rev 20:9) while all believers will be "changed" to have immortal bodies at...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The soon coming rapture?

    No, it most definitely is not. I believe the pre-trib rapture theory is by far the weakest, most unsupportable doctrine that exists in eschatology. Matthew 24:29-31 is clearly the same event as 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, but pre-tribs turn them into separate events. There's one example. Also...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The soon coming rapture?

    I reject your false teaching, not scripture. Are you saying that you think I'm not in Christ? What is your point here? What does this have to do with the pre-trib rapture theory? You know nothing about me. You better be careful about judging me because you will be judged with the same measure...