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John 3 says the new birth coming spiritually like the wind, it cannot be seen.

Well, I see... :)

I see what you mean, yes. I can follow what you are saying. There seem to be a number of schools of thought - some of them overlapping, of course. For some ppl it's all about becoming a man, becoming a woman. (Hence, do it at around 18.) For some Christians, although the compulsion to do it...

Wonderful chapter, Romans 8! :)

I don't understand the premise of the thread....

We need to keep looking up (Hebrews 12.2), without needing to grind our teeth, so to speak... :)

Okay, so voting in the poll has started, folks!

Romans 8 is a wonderful chapter!

Stated differently, The church is not Israel. The Holy Spirit, by the influence of Whom a person repents, has indwelt Christians since Pentecost, Acts 2. (You see the relevance of the dispensational aspect? whether you agree with it or not, you see why I mentioned it?)

Thanks; I kind of sense, then, that 'Between 18 and 25' makes a lot of sense to you, right? (Assuming that you were converted between those ages, more or less?)

Thank-you! This is the King James phrasing of 3.3: "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

Interesting ... (odd?) ... way to phrase it...

Yes, I see what you mean; your earlier comment sort of obliquely dealt with the poll responses in the sense that your thoughts for the poll are tied up with your own possible plans. I guess in terms of warning (?) others, the thought strikes me, At what age does a warning to avoid it become...

Well, I wouldn't be expected to agree... :)

I really like those verses! :)

@Dave L PS: did you vote in the poll? :)

Yes, I take your point. Very much. I guess it could also have been phrased, to avoid possible regrets later, Until what age should tattoo caution be absolute? Some ppl regard it as a rite of passage to adulthood; others see it strictly as something one should have wanted for many years and...

Hoping you can sort out the bureaucracy, Sir...

@Dave L FYI...

@Dave L FYI...