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  1. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Aaah, a partial preterist? Do you want to start a thread on partial preterism vs futurism? We could have fun hashing these concepts out.
  2. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Incidentally, I am the preterist's worse nightmare.
  3. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Whew, glad you are not a preterist. You are mixed up by saying Matt 25 is Luke 21:24.
  4. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    You are wrong. No Jew was the "virgin", and Jesus never took anyone yet. The "virgin" are the Acts 2 folks, which are made pure by Acts 2:38. Those left behind to find oil are the carnal ones that were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins, giving them spiritual...
  5. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Boy are you mixed up. Are you a preterist?
  6. Truther

    Why do you reject authority?

    Okay.... But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy. closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray. to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father. which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. And here is what praying in the spirit looks like... 15 What is it then? I will pray with...
  7. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    So Jesus took half the nation of Israel and left the other half of them? When?
  8. Truther

    Why do you reject authority?

    That wafer spiritually nourishes you? Try praying in tongues in your closet for about a half hour and you'll never go back to that chalky thingy again.
  9. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Per Matt 25(parable of the bridegroom), is the church sleeping or in great peril?
  10. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Let's look at this closer... Paul speaks of a taking to heaven..... 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of...
  11. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Both passages are in this order....taking...thief...drunk. Paul says ..."this we say by the word of the Lord'. "We" are the Apostles, which were familiar with the word of the Lord per Matt 24-25. The taking alive was common knowledge with the 1st century church, and Paul was COMMENTING on the...
  12. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    You are all over the place..catching away...2nd coming. Chapter 25 begins with a sleeping church, then a taking by the bridegroom to a wedding. Not "birth pains", but relaxation. So, chapter 25 is a continuing explanation of 24. Read the OP and make the 3 parallel subjects not say what they say.
  13. Truther

    Why do you reject authority?

    Some RCC organizations have there origins in attempting to end the reformation. They only succeeded in helping to invent modern versions via Westcott/Hort, who were RCC plants.
  14. Truther

    Why do you reject authority?

    Amen, you too. It is good to be alive today on God's earth!
  15. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    My OP proves Paul quoted Jesus in Matt 24 when speaking in 1 Thes 4. Do you think the 3 parallel subject matters were a Biblical coincidence?
  16. Truther

    Why do you reject authority?

    That's good you cut back on it. The less coffee the better for some. I don't have much stress in life, or I would cut back too.
  17. Truther

    Why do you reject authority?

    I can't imagine no coffee at this stage of my life. I was delivered from all of those worldly vices in 1979 and took up drinking coffee instead. If it isn't one thing it's another, huh?
  18. Truther

    Why do you reject authority?

    We all need a good chuckle from time to time. Too much coffee?