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  1. Truther

    Shall we discuss this?

    Yes, the spoken word of God is/was God.
  2. Truther

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    Precisely. it makes Jesus God by default. And he is still a man that is an independent individual man with a God. By default, the man Christ Jesus was made God after he resurrected.
  3. Truther

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    You don't understand the Godhead. Col 2:9 explains that all of what God consists of is inside the body of jesus. So, how do you pray to God in the name of the man that God is inside, and ignore speaking to the man that houses God?
  4. Truther

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    How can anyone pray to God and not Jesus, realizing that all of God is inside Jesus, bodily? That is flat out rude to Jesus.
  5. Truther

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    You skip the mediator. Bad idea. I pray to Jesus and his inner God honors my prayer.
  6. Truther

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    Yes, I pray to a particular man.... For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; ...don't skip the mediator in your prayers. You cannot bypass what God has put between us and Him. God is telling us here that we can only come to Him though this mediator...
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    John Darby

    That is why we should read and take the word of God at face value.
  8. Truther

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    If Jesus was Spirit, then became human, that is reincarnation into another type of being, not incarnation.
  9. Truther

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    So you skip Jesus when praying? I never skip Jesus, but only pray to Jesus. Since all of the Father is inside the spirit body of Jesus, God hears these prayers as to Himself. I pray to God through Jesus. You pray to God around Jesus. Big difference.
  10. Truther

    For The 9999th Time, OSAS (Albeit Testimony Time)

    Is this the human describing what God is speaking, that He became?... 24 God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
  11. Truther

    For The 9999th Time, OSAS (Albeit Testimony Time)

    ....Only if we push the Law as the source of salvation.
  12. Truther

    For The 9999th Time, OSAS (Albeit Testimony Time)

    So you think God is human? Jesus thought God is human here?... 24 God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
  13. Truther

    For The 9999th Time, OSAS (Albeit Testimony Time)

    He was 100% man, but not even 1% God. God was never a molecular cell in the uterus, nor an embryo, nor a fetus, nor a newborn baby, nor a child, nor an adolescent, nor a man. God is not a man. God is a Spirit. Ask Jesus in John 4:24 if you don't believe me.
  14. Truther

    For The 9999th Time, OSAS (Albeit Testimony Time)

    My "eternal security" rests solely on my obeying Acts 2:38. I have repented, been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of my sins and have recieved the baptism of the Holy Ghost as required for 1st century believers. This will be my "defense" in the court of heaven, which is...
  15. Truther

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    Yes, Jesus is the God of the Bible as God fully indwells Jesus, bodily, with all that He consists of. But, God did not turn into Jesus as incarnationists believe.
  16. Truther

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    Jesus told folks to pray to his Father prior to resurrecting and the Col 2:9 effect the Father had on his resurrected body. Now everything goes through our ACTIVE advocate/mediator. Horrible idea to try to pray to his Father now and leave him out of it. You end up approaching God with no...
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    John Darby

    Never heard that idea in my life. Jer 31/Hebrews 8 is not for living humans???