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I can present the best case for the 3 concepts. Pre trib is easy to debate against the others. If a skilled eschatology teacher would like to, I would challenge him or her to a debate on the subject. If someone teaches a subject, they should be ready to defend it.

You mean the end of the world in chapter 20 should be in the beginning at chapter 1?

Bobby Jo, if you miss this.... 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. ...you will be in real bad shape...

You will not understand until chapter 14, when the 3 angels warn you, then prepare you to be slain... 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead...

Then you are wrong. You could not even make it through the 6th chapter... 6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and...

Does anyone think that the Church will be going through the great tribulation?

Who is him that hath understanding? The entirety of the nearly 7 billion from all religions, nationalities and tongues per chapter 14? Or just a few per capita? So, the 3 angels of chapter 14 are late for the party, or are they identifying and warning the nearly 7 billion of something bad...

16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Just curious...are you pre, mid or post trib?

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No, if you don't know... say "I don't know", and you will be well received. It is the speculator that gets laughed out of Christendom. Remember 88 reasons why Jesus will return in 1988? The sensationalists never stop making folks laugh at them. When I teach, I generalize the sequence of...

You will be proven wrong like the rest of them if you sensationalize the verses too much. I can only assure you the historical based areas of the book of Rev like the RCC(originally the Roman empire), or the woman in Rev that the dragon chases(Israel) etc.. But I will not try to guess what...

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The Bible became flesh? I thought the word of God made Jesus(flesh)....Matt 1..."thou shalt bring forth a son". Not, the word of God turned into flesh.

Hi there. Welcome to the thread. My position is that the word of God is the SPOKEN word of God per John 1. That is it. God spoke in verse 3(per Gen 1) and everything that exists, exists. God then spoke in verse 14(per Matt 1), and Jesus began his existence. Man has made this simple process...

You deflect. You teach Col 2:9 is "really" saying this... "For in his small body dwells all the fullness of God's qualities only".

"For in his small body dwells all the fullness of God's qualities only". In fact, this is what theologians think, but avoid saying.

The spirit of a man is all God is concerned about. The flesh and it's nature(carnal man) are emnity with God. The only reason we can have a religious discussion is God working on our spirit man, which dominates our flesh man. Our flesh man would rather go to the beach than discuss religion.

This is the easiest doctrine I follow. My wife says she likes me shaved, so I shave. Happy wife, happy life!