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  1. Truther

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    Only you and Jesus know? 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. This is in the future, not now. How did you figure out what only Jesus knows?
  2. Truther

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    If you don't mind, we can start with John 1.(You are very polite). It speaks of God's spoken word, it was with Him and was Him. Verse 3 says His spoken word made all things(as per Gen 1). Verse 14 His spoken word also was made Jesus in a microscopic form(originally). That's really all it...
  3. Truther

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    What is Jesus' new name?
  4. Truther

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    Question to anyone.... Is Col 2:9 saying that all of what God consists of(entirety of the Godhead) is in the body of Jesus? Or... Only all of God's "qualities"? 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
  5. Truther

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    Scoot. You think Col 2:9 is saying Jesus is God or God is in Jesus?
  6. Truther

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    I did. It was rather lengthy. Notice I keep it simple and discuss things point by point. The reason is, we must score on every point if we are correct, not just a percentage of hits. Respectfully, there was little scripture posted.(just "I believe....Verse, verse...."
  7. Truther

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    Thank you for your participation. If you have further questions, drop in and ask them. I just think the early church originally taught about Jesus having a God, as per Eph 1:3 etc. It is modern orthodoxy that seems to repel from this ancient communication practice. I think the apostles etc...
  8. Truther

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    All the verse you posted must correlate perfectly with this.... 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: I can make them harmonize beautifully. Can you?
  9. Truther

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    Tell Paul that... 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: I would have never told Paul that.
  10. Truther

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    No, not at all. Jesus was MADE GOD by default, after he was resurrected from the DEAD by his God. His God would not leave his soul in hell etc. I was oneness and that is their position. The Father exists in the last Adam now, bodily....the omnipresent, quickening spirit body of the last...
  11. Truther

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    If Trump decided to be a servant, that is the form he would appear to his staff as. Same as the last Adam.
  12. Truther

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    The original texts are non-existent. They disintegrated many hundreds of years ago. The copies of them are all that is left. Ancient men translated these ancient copies over 400 years ago into our language. I trust these 50 ancient men more than the thousands of modern men translating the...
  13. Truther

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    Yes. Try it, you'll like it. Don't run to the "scholars" when the going get's tough...
  14. Truther

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    That was the last Adam thinking himself equal etc....not God thinking Himself equal... God had no inner spat.
  15. Truther

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    Jesus was made a quickening spirit after he parted with his human body. He then had every bit of what his God consists of, lest Col 2:9 is wrong. The appearance of Jesus in a body for 40 days was for humans to see he is alive and well, but it in no way represents his permanent body for, then...
  16. Truther

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    Into extra Biblical error? Nope. I am not into the modern works of who knows who they are...
  17. Truther

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    God is humble? I trow not. The last, sinless Adam humbled himself....yes indeed.
  18. Truther

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    Egad. Stick to the KJV. Thanks.
  19. Truther

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    Correct. I just cannot buy God becoming a microscopic sperm cell and mating with Mary's egg as incarnationists suppose. Rather, I think God made a sperm cell and fertilized Mary's egg, making the son of God, and Mary making the son of man(David). The first Adam was made from dirt, but the...
  20. Truther

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    Yes. There is more than one heaven though per Paul. The heaven we are speaking of is among us, though we cannot see it with carnal eyes. When we die, we will see it for the 1st time. Hebrews 12 says we are come unto this invisible realm, but obviously cannot see it yet.