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If the Apostles didn’t “complete“ them it is because they didn’t hold them. That is Father Fortman’s point. He uses the term “elemental trinitarianism” to describe their writings -> what they wrote doesn’t contain the doctrine but did contain the material which others could (and gradually over...

I’ve been clear from the beginning that I’m not a Nicene Christian. I don’t agree with the Nicene Creed and cannot affirm it. I picked the Apostles’ Creed because it isn’t a trinitarian creed and can be discussed without violating board policy. The other creeds are trinitarian and can’t be...

Yes.

“Be you to others kind and true, As you’d have others be to you; And neither do nor say to men Whate’re you would nit take again.” - Isaac Watts

* They’re used to it. DST - Druid Saving Time - has always been a labor intensive job. *

* I’m feeling it. *

* I’d be hosed if I did this. I think I’d probably be better off just leaving my clock unchanged for now, show up an hour early and wait outside in the car. *

* The local Health Department is going to take a dim view on this. *

What is my need? My need is to abide by the current board policy. I “cherry picked” the Apostles’ Creed because I believe it is the only post-biblical creed that we can discuss and remain in compliance with the policy. I still believe that to be the case but I’m beginning to think that you may not.

Does the Apostles’ Creed suggest to others the idea that God interacted miraculously / supernaturally with the virgin to breed a God? It doesn’t to me.

It isn’t debated - hotly or otherwise - by me. I understand and appreciate your point that others might see the post and feel that they must challenge it. It won’t change my mind and what I wrote won’t change theirs. If someone does, I‘ll ignore it. If several do, I’ll ask the moderators to...

What do you say?

I will post this just as an aside: human life begins at conception. Abortion of a child in the womb is the taking / ending / destruction of a human life. A human person living in the womb of his or her mother is killed. I stand unequivocally against abortion for any reason.

What you’ve described is reminiscent of the demigods of Greek mythology. In Jewish monotheism, God doesn’t breed. Using your human analogy, it is the woman, a mother who conceives; it is the man, a father, who begets. When a father begets a child the mother conceives the child. A person who...

The first translation of John’s prologue that you presented me with has ”he”. The translation I presented of John’s prologue for your consideration has “it”. We agree that a person is not an it. A question that you might ask me is how I harmonize the “he” in your translation with the “it“ in my...