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I see that I need to clarify my position: They didn’t have to leave the Jewish faith. They didn’t leave the Jewish faith. They eventually had to leave the synagogues. Where I can agree with your point is that Christianity later did leave the Jewish faith. Christianity began as a sect of...

I believe Jesus is God, figuratively, not literally. Check and check. I’ve agreed with that. Jesus told his fellow Jewish monotheists that they believe in God. He commanded them to believe also in him. Right? I’m a Jewish monotheist. I believe in God. I believe also in Jesus Christ. That...

Only for the purposes of discussion. I can agree with the Apostles’ Creed. The point seems to be that it doesn’t really matter if I can or not in regard to whether or not I’m a Christian. That interests me. With him in mind. *** A person is not an it. *** Jesus speaks about the last...

Okay. Neither one of us wants that to happen. That’s fine. I understand where you’re coming from. You won’t have to spell it out for me.

Different words aren’t needed to say the same thing. You and I are not stating exactly the same idea. I think we could find out if you removed certain words from your vocabulary. I can agree with those examples. They come from tradition. The logos - it, not he - did become flesh. The...

No. They aren’t a Bible. Yes, you have. I agree with “through him” not “by him”. I’m not here discussing the Nicene Creed. The key word, and difference in the translations, is “it”. Okay. When did Jesus speak them?

“The Apostles’ Creed is the oldest statement of faith in the Christian Church, written some time in the second century AD. The creed defines core Christian beliefs about God, Jesus, the church, salvation, and other theological topics.” https://zondervanacademic.com/blog/apostles-creed So this...

Do you not think Moses is real? Do you not think that Jesus thought Moses is real?

Thanks. I’m taking the creed simply as written and was able to agree with this phrase as far as it goes. To borrow your phrase, I agree with the overview. I agree with that. Yes. What, though, if we don’t? If you were simply to ask me if I agree with the Apostles’ Creed, and if I were...

Thank you. I didn’t take that approach with the student (I wish in hindsight that I had) but I agree that this would have been helpful to him and that it should be helpful to others like him who may be struggling with the reliability of the Bible.

I’m going to go ahead, slowly, to the next phrase. If you have more that you would like to say about this phrase, please feel free. I believe this phrase of the creed wholeheartedly. I believe also in Jesus Christ, his [referring to God, the Father almighty, from the opening phrase] only Son...

Yes. I’m thinking here about 1 Timothy 2:5. “For there is one God,…” Who is this one God? I understand him to be the Father. In fact, the God and Father of the Messiah. “… and one mediator also between God and men, …” Is “God“ anyone other than the one God? I don’t think so. ”… the man…”...

Primitive Christians didn’t use your terminology. As you said, your terminology had to be invented later. If we confine ourselves to the terminology which the primitive Christians used our conversation will sound like their conversation do. If we don’t, then our conversation will sound very...

I agree. The Apostles’ Creed explicitly identifies one person, the Father, as the creator of the heavens and the earth. It was enough for the author of the that creed. It is enough for me. It is a statement that every Jewish monotheist can readily affirm, whether the Jewish monotheist believes...

No doubt that’s true. The terminology of the Bible remains sufficient for me, just as it was for those who lived in biblical times. I’m a primitive Christian, a first century Christian, living in the twenty-first century. You’ll have to remember my frame. I believe in the incarnation of God’s...

I believe the beginning of the Apostles’ Creed is what the NT teaches. Yes. Thanks.

Yes. I believe that. I also believe that 1 John is John’s commentary of his Gospel. I’m a Jewish monotheist and I’ve commented that Christianity is Jewish. My perspective on scripture - OT and NT - is Jewish. I’m a Jewish Christian. Yes. You will reply that they are heretics. What is...

The Creeds say nothing about their being two Gods. The Creeds also go beyond the subordinationism of Justin and others. Peter added that Jesus is the Son of the living God. That defines the Messiah for me.

Your post is too long for me to respond to without an even larger post.

Since you’re leaving it at that I’ll leave it at that also. I’ll go back to what the Apostles’ Creed says and restate that it expresses my belief about who the creator of the heavens and the earth is. Considering this part of the creed alone, can we agree that my agreement with it is Christian...