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You’re not addressing anything I actually argued. Saying “your excuses haven’t swayed me” and repeating your conclusions isn’t a rebuttal — it’s just a way of avoiding the evidence. You claimed Matthew used “until” because he knew Joseph and Mary later had children. But that’s not what heos hou...

You’re saying you only referenced Koperski to show that extra‑biblical sources “cannot be relied on,” but that doesn’t resolve the contradiction I pointed out. You didn’t cite Koperski as a warning — you cited him as evidence, specifically his claim that Hegesippus called Jude a “blood sibling"...

You’re saying — via Koperski — that appealing to extra‑biblical sources “is not persuasive,” but Koperski himself appealed to Hegesippus, and you used that appeal as part of your argument. You specifically cited Koperski’s claim that Hegesippus called Jude a “blood sibling,” and I responded...

I already did — I sent him a message laying out exactly what I explained to you. If he replies, I’ll let you know. You’re saying two incompatible things at the same time. On the one hand, you agree with me — and with Hegesippus — that: Clopas was Joseph’s brother. Which means: Clopas =...

You cite Andrew Koperski, but the sentence he quotes from Hegesippus actually supports my argument, not his. Hegesippus explicitly says Clopas was Joseph’s brother (Hist. Eccl. II.11.2), which means Clopas is Jesus’s uncle and Clopas’s sons — Joseph, Simon, James, and Judas — are Jesus’s cousins...

You say “they used brother and sister instead of another Greek word,” but that argument collapses once you apply it consistently across the New Testament. Adelphos in Koine Greek has a broad semantic range—“brother, near kinsman, or relative”—and the NT uses it that way constantly. If the...

Showing you genealogically, textually, linguistically, and historically that Jesus’s adelphoi are not His biological siblings is not “making assumptions.” It is reading the sources in context — something your interpretation does not do. You quoted Andrew Koperski saying: “Hegesippus… claiming...

You keep saying my argument is “patently false,” but you’re not actually responding to what I wrote. I’m not only repeating: Only Jesus is called “the carpenter’s Son” (Matt 13:55) Only Jesus is called “the Son of Mary” (Mark 6:3) I’m repeating all the rest of the evidence you keep ignoring —...

You’re repeating Matthew 1:25 again, but you still haven’t addressed the argument I already gave you about heos hou (“until”). My point was simple: “Until” does not always imply a later reversal. That’s a linguistic fact, not a statistical argument. These examples: Luke 23:44; Luke 24:49...

You've said that earlier in this thread, and you never replied to the following: "You say, "...its much more probable that Jesus had siblings. If they meant to say cousin then they would of used the Greek term for it which does get used elsewhere in the NT." But if you’re going to argue that...

You say "the title “Mother of God” is inappropriate, but at least it acknowledges Jesus is God incarnate." But Scripture itself already uses the equivalent expression. Elizabeth — filled with the Holy Spirit — calls Mary “the mother of my Lord” (Luke 1:43). And in Luke’s Gospel, “my Lord” is...

You didn’t actually do the exercise. You responded to each step with something other than what the step required. Step 1 was not “prove lifelong virginity from Isaiah and Luke.” It was: “Suppose for a moment that you believed Mary remained a lifelong virgin for the reasons given.” It’s a...

You didn’t actually address any of the points — you just waved each one away with “everyone believes that,” “common names,” or “betrothed,” without engaging the argument itself. For example: Saying Mary was “betrothed” doesn’t explain why she, as a legally married Jewish woman, expresses a...

How can I reject what I never received? I'm in the middle of a discussion with DavidLamb, ArmourofGod, sondring7, and even you, and none of you has replied to my latest post in each of those conversations. None of you has addressed the evidence in the opening post. And none of you has even...

Calling the evidence (opening post and posts #9; #14; #16; #21) “speculative” and accusing me of “promoting Mary” doesn’t address a single scriptural point I presented. It’s just another motive‑attack. Nothing I cited was speculation: Isaiah 7:14 is not speculation. Luke 1:34 is not...

Accusing the doctrine of being “pernicious” or aimed at “worship” doesn’t address any of the Scriptural evidence I presented. It’s just a motive‑attack — not an argument. Nothing I wrote involved worship. Nothing involved elevating Mary above God. I cited Scripture, genealogy, the Gospel family...

If you’ve truly “considered it all,” then you should be able to address at least one of the specific points I listed. But you didn’t. You didn’t respond to the Gospel data, the genealogical evidence, the identification of Mary of Clopas/Cleophas, the early Christian testimony, Joseph’s...

You’re confident enough to assert that Mary had relations with Joseph, but you haven’t defended that claim or addressed any of the Scriptural evidence I already laid out in the opening post and posts #9; #14, #16. You haven’t even done this simple 3‑step exercise: 1. Suppose for a moment that...

There are “probabilities and considerations,” and then there are the actual facts. And you haven’t addressed the facts I presented. Here is everything you have not responded to: You did not address the adelphos evidence: You did not address that the men called Jesus’s adelphoi are never...

Scripture never says Mary had marital intercourse. So no one can claim with certainty that She did, and that leaves room for the possibility that She never did. But even if She remained a lifelong virgin, that would not make Her a “bad wife.” That accusation assumes a definition of marriage that...