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  1. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Correct Postribbers will either take the mark or be executed. So beheading, to you guys, is, " escaping the trib" Yes, you may very well "escape" the trib. I am ok with your new translation. It has indirect truth in your Bible changes.
  2. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    It is a no brainer. Escaping the trib is clearly written like it means and says. Escaping temptation means Escaping temptation All that "reading into it", to change the bible is flat out ridiculous.
  3. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    John is speaking through revelation gven him from heaven. Do you also rebel at John's revelation: "the Lamb of God" Do you insist John was mistaken, and that Jesus did not have a wool jumpsuit on? Who s directing you in these wild bible changes?????????
  4. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    That is from the hyperpauline workbook. Ok, now I get it. You are hyperpauline, ccorrect? Maybe even hyper Pauline and RT.
  5. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    Is that your best shot at changing the bible? When he Bible says we are seated together with him in heavenly places, do you also over anylize that? Do you say, "ha ha, I am obviously here on earth." Do you walk around like 15"th century knight with your armor on? Do you tell paul, "what is...
  6. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    The church is not israel The letter is to the church. YOU CHANGED IT ON PURPOSE Again, WHY CHANGE IT????.
  7. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Not at all. Pure commentary via omission. Look at the billions martyred around rev 6 or so. It says their number is innumerable. That is DURING THE TRIB. REV 13 goes on to say the AC is given power to overcome the saints . It says all take the mark. Every person on the planet takes the mark...
  8. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    The rapture is Jesus gathering. Postribbers have Jesus staying in heaven and sending angels to gather. In fact look at Revelation 14;14. HELLO....Angels send Jesus. You guys have painted yourselves into YET ANOTHER POSTRIBBER CORNER. Just plain bizarre. Postrib rapture is poorly thought out.
  9. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Jesus taught a pretrib rapture. So you need to tell him he was wrong. That Greek word for "earth" is used by Jesus over 78 times as "THE PLANET" You sure you want to tell Jesus , who created all the planets, that you are smarter than him and he had limited knowledge????? Your ai tainted...
  10. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Why? It would be folly to think he would come pretrib. Do You realize there is a "worthiness" in that verse? When you pray to be worthy,would not that be redundant to a postribber? The unworthy ones in mat 25 and mat 24 (that some were left behind,) were believers. In the postrib doctrine, that...
  11. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    Mat 9:15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast. Speaking SPECIFICALLY OF THE CHURCH AS THE BRIDE. UNDENIABLE
  12. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    QUOTE "... It is NOT a bride but symbolic of the glory of God upon it. (Rev. 21: 11)" Of course it is. Why can you discern that and no other verses concerning the bride and groom????
  13. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    Nope reread it. You completely changed it. Wow. Eph 5 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: BUT I SPEAK CONCERNING CHRIST AND THE CHURCH. You reframed to say " I am not speaking...
  14. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    At some point, teachers will make a fool out of their followers.
  15. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Ewq also is debating in another thread that the Church is not the bride of Christ. What is going on with these people? It is appalling the misuse of scripture.
  16. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    All weddings both earthly and heavenly are symbolic.
  17. rebuilder 454

    Overview of the Tribulation.

    Well you got the wife/israel part correct , but the bride of Christ incorrect. Ephesians 5 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church...
  18. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Plus here in America all scientists believe the grand canyon formed from a world wide flood.
  19. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Pretrib. They are obviously raised pretrib. You ever read rev 14: 14-15? A gathering BEFORE THE SECOND COMING. HELLO????? Your doctrine says emphatically " one coming" Look at the obvious corner you guys painted yourself into. That alone should wake all of you up.
  20. rebuilder 454

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    ...and yet you guys are not waiting for Jesus. You are looking for the false Jesus. So you are starting out in deception by not doing as commanded.