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Jesus sending angels to gather in heaven and not going himself is not the rapture. Jesus sends angels in heaven to gather saints in heaven POSTRIB to assemble IN HEAVEN to the white horses. Definately not tge rapture. Jesus taught us it is before the flood. Read mat 24 and Luke 17. Was Jesus...

1) A falling away. We are in that falling away now. So there is that part and we are now seeing it and in it. 2) The ac will be revealed. Revealed as scripture declares. Those that are mature believers will see Him revealed before the trib. So, yes, we will obviously be in the falling away...

The uttermost part of earth is the atmosphere. The atmosphere is PART OF EARTH. Ahem....THE UTTERMOST PART OF IT. You are aware earth is a "ball", correct? Thank you for admitting, and showcasing, that in the rapture, Jesus gathers. In both your passages JESUS SENDS and does NOT go. So yes...

Maybe when they work on the shallow end of the pool they can fill the deep end first and call it a local filling. Must be nice living in a fantasy make believe dynamic.

Lol. You guys change the bible, then invoke "decievers" language. Rich!!!!

Let's not ignore it. or do what you do to it. Here it is; Mat 24 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Yep thank you Jesus that you shorten those days. Amen! I agree!!!!

Thank you . Yes it does. Never said it didn't I will keep this brief as there are other things that you post that need attention. You might consider asking what I believe instead of guessing and getting it wrong.

Either you, or your teachers changed it. You forgot the rapture is from earth, and your mat 24 passage has Angels gathering in heaven, and Jesus staying.? Huh? Oh wait....that is why you changed it. You are wanting us to believe the dead in Christ at the rapture, are raised up from somewhere...

It is one of 2 escape verses. Escaping the trib, great trib, or wrath. Whatever you wish to call the 7 yr trib you guys are determined to participate in. So no you would never pray that.

Greek interlinear: G575 Prep FROM akrwn akrOn G206 n_ Gen Pl n EXTREMITIES ouranwn ouranOn G3772 n_ Gen Pl m OF-heavens You have to check things out. Your teachers have totally lied to you and changed Gods word. Appalling

Lol. What translation are you using. Mat 24 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other Jettison your nastiness and ( postriber calling card) and read what it says.

I just wonder how their minds operate to imagine a local flood that covers mountains. It must have a wall of water about 200 miles away. ....as high as a mountain. Local???? Local flood????? No ark needed. Just some wagons and horses. 99 years of building a needless ship.

What did Jesus mean with this passage? Rev 3 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. And the other escape verse? " ... But pray that you may be counted...

I just gave you what, 10 or 15 verses that smash your deal.? You are sitting in ashes holding up a horn, saying those verses bounced off your horn. I thought you said you saw the light and yet have no point at all.

Lol. CAN YOU ACTUALLY READ???? YOU posted a passage that says; "AFTER THE trib JESUS SENDS ANGELS TO GATHER SAINTS in heaven, not earth". PSSST..HE is telling us HE DOES NOT GO, but SENDS ANGELS. ANGELS GATHER IN HEAVEN. You just made a case for the pretrib rapture. Jesus doesn't go but sends...

Oh..I forgot. Why are ONLY THE 144,000 SEALED against the flying scorpions?????? The church that is supposedly there get stung repeatedly ???? You don't suppose they are not there to be sealed? Maybe they are in heaven as the Bible teaches clearly?

QUOTE " I held the pre-trib position for many years...until I was shown the truth. No one could show me the truth until I was ready." Take a look at rev 14:14-15. Look at the impossibility of it to fit your doctrine. A jewish gathering, DURING THE 7yr TRIB. It is Not postrib. It is Not at...

QUOTE "Now, post a single verse that says there is a pre-trib rapture....there are ZERO. They all refer to the 2nd coming." Actually I have many in contrast to your zero. 1) Acts 1 2) Mat 24 3) Mat 25 4) 1 thes 4 5) Rev 14:14-15 6) Rev 13 7) Rev 3 the escape verse by Jesus. 8) Luke 17 9) The...

BTW. The second coming on horses, has no rapture, nor a resurrection. So your trumpet smoking gun needs further investigation.

The pretrib rapture parable of the virgins also tells those carnal believers to "go buy"