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How to be saved: Act 16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? How to be born again: 1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of...

I agree with those that are born again are saved but what I’m saying is that those who are saved may or may not be born again. It’s up to the believer to take that next step which is putting 100% faith in the Bible as written.

I believe you said born again and saved are the same thing. I could be wrong. I’m working and chatting at the same time lol.

It’s the scripture. You added the capital W to word of God to make it say something that it doesn’t.

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. This verse verse tells us how a person is born again so am asking you how does that verse say that a person is born again.

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. How does that verse say a person is born again?

No it’s seeing past bad doctrine. You can’t defend your position from the Bible and I know you can’t because that’s how I learned that being born again and saved are two completely different things.

Not according to the Bible. The Bible says you’re born again by the incorruptible word of God. I was an atheist when I was saved 30 years ago, I knew nothing about the word of God and neither does any new believer.

It’s both. Literal things happen to symbolic things.

As you said, those Galatians were saved believers — yet Paul is still travailing to birth Christ in them, which means Christ was not yet formed in them at that point. It goes back to the discussion you and I had a while back where I said born again and saved are two different things.

I think the city is symbolic of the people. Revelation is given in symbolic language, and it interprets its own symbols constantly — the seven stars are the angels of the churches, the waters are peoples and multitudes, the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. So when the angel says...

I agree with that but it doesn't explain how heavenly Jerusalem is the mother of us all. Here is an example of a member of heavenly Jerusalem travailing to birth Christ in a believer. Christ is birthed through preaching the word by a person located on this earth. Galatians 4:19 My little...

Galatians 4:26 says Jerusalem above is "the mother of us all," written to living believers. How is she their mother if she's made of people who have died?

Some people need to start reading international weather weapons treaties. sml

Ephesians 5:31, the twain shall be one flesh, and Paul says he speaks concerning Christ and the church. Can you explain how that isn’t a marriage?

Sticking with Revelation 21 as you asked. Verse 9 — "Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife." Then verse 10 shows him the city. That's the passage identifying the two as the same thing. Nothing in the chapter says the bride enters. Verse 24 says the nations and the kings of...

In Revelation how do you decide whether something is literal or symbolic?

Paul calls Jerusalem which is above "the mother of us all" (Gal 4:26). Can a city be a mother? He's contrasting two Jerusalems there — the one which now is, in bondage with her children, and the one above, which is free. Both are described as women with children. Neither is being described as...

I'd say the woman represents the church and Adam represents Christ. Paul says as much — Ephesians 5:31–32 quotes Genesis on the two becoming one flesh and then says he speaks concerning Christ and the church. And Romans 5:14 calls Adam the figure of him that was to come. Eve was deceived and...

This one I will debate. The context is the time of Jacobs trouble and the second coming of Christ. Obviously speaking of Christ coming at the resurrection in with all power and great glory.